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Grand Theft Auto's heist of the American character
Minneapolis Star Tribune ^ | May 4, 2008 | KATHERINE KERSTEN

Posted on 05/04/2008 9:39:13 AM PDT by rhema

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To: montag813

LOL


41 posted on 05/04/2008 10:48:20 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

heh....Pacman. Reminds me of one of the best lines ever on MST3K: I can’t remember which movie it was but the camera pans acress a Turkish flag and Tom Servo says, “Huh. Pacman’s got his own flag.”


43 posted on 05/04/2008 10:51:00 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
I doubt there's much sectarian violence, just gangster stuff. Closest to that would be like in Scarface where the price Tony Montana's paid for a green card. "I kill communist for fun, but for a Green Card? I carve him up real nice."

GTA is a storyline action game with a lot of parodies.

44 posted on 05/04/2008 10:53:08 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: The Right Stuff

It isn’t necessary. But when you get right down to it video games aren’t necessary. It’s a form of entertainment just like any other, some comedians are clean some aren’t, some song writers are clean some aren’t, some movie makers are clean some aren’t. We have various forms of ratings and a society that pushes info around at quite a clip so you never need be surprised.


45 posted on 05/04/2008 10:54:28 AM PDT by discostu (down in the swamps with the gators and flamingos)
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To: mnehrling
Considering you are the first person I've ever seen make this connection, even though the war on islamic fascism is one of the biggest stories of the time, I doubt it.

Well then you need to see that TV commercial I watched the other night, because they were hitting the immigrant angle really hard.

46 posted on 05/04/2008 10:55:04 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Serbs are Christians, Orthodox Christians. Same ethnic stock, and Latin Christian is called Croat, same ethnic stock and Muslim is called Bosniac.

I hope that helps.

Oh, and names derivative from Nicholas tend to be Christian.


47 posted on 05/04/2008 10:56:05 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

No, you play what seems to be either a Russian or possibly Serbian immigrant.

That, and one of the first missions is to save your cousin from an Albanian loan-shark... so you get to beat the cr@p out of an Albanian (aka... the same muslims that gave us Kosovo).


48 posted on 05/04/2008 10:57:11 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla
so you get to beat the cr@p out of an Albanian

Okay, that is teh r0x0r.

49 posted on 05/04/2008 10:58:40 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Seen it, just reminded me of many of the recent mafia styled movies like Lord of War, Boondock Saints, Snatch, etc.


50 posted on 05/04/2008 10:59:22 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Tanniker Smith

I used to have N64. I loved Mario Kart. I played it for hours. I would like to get a Wii at some point. I’ll have to buy a copy of the game.


51 posted on 05/04/2008 11:02:20 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: mnehrling

Snatch was a great movie.


52 posted on 05/04/2008 11:02:29 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: rhema

I can’t see them banning this. Heck, they won’t even ban hardcore porn, and that’s real in that the people in it are actually engaging in sex and whatever other perverted acts the porn producer wants in the film.


53 posted on 05/04/2008 11:03:56 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I couldn’t help but infer from your question that...

1. you don’t know much about the stuff that happened in the Balkans during the 1990s.

and

2. you’ve probably judged the news, political events, and people based off that lack of knowledge.


And the answer is that there really aren’t any Serbian Muslims. Muslims in that area tend to be either Bosnian or Albanian in ethnicity. And some of the Albanians decided that it’d be a great idea to move into Kosovo, and after a few decades, demand secession from Serbia.


54 posted on 05/04/2008 11:06:34 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: rhema

Huh. Another reason I don’t play video games.


55 posted on 05/04/2008 11:07:08 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: kromike

Well said, very well said indeed.


56 posted on 05/04/2008 11:07:26 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

His immigrant status is mainly a story device to get him to America. With Rockstar, it is also an opportunity to criticize America—the whole “the American Dream is a nightmare” scenario. The masterminds behind GTA are Brits, and they don’t seem to have a lot of love for either America or capitalism (except the millions they make, of course). The main arc of the character is that he did some bad things in his homeland and has fled to America to try for a new life, but the situtation in America pulls him even further into the criminal underworld. I doubt if his religion plays much of a part, because religion is another thing Rockstar despises. I have no real information on this angle, however.

If anyone wants to dispute my take on Rockstar’s outlook, I’ll be happy to read it. But, don’t assume it comes from ignorance and a reflexive dislike of GTA. I can understand why people on the right would hate these games sight unseen—sort of like it how it chafes me when a leftist movie comes out and is played up by the press—but I have played all of the GTA III games and particularly love San Andreas. I have spent untold hours in that world. They mainly get their philosophy across in the radio commercials, and I tend to switch the channel when they come on.

It is funny how full-circle we’ve come, however. I believe the Hausers are socialists at best, and they are making “poor people are forced to become gangsters in capitalistic America” games. 70 years ago, writers like John Bright were full-on communists making movies like The Public Enemy that took the same view. And, like Rockstar, Bright would be appalled by my politics, but I enjoy his work anyway.


57 posted on 05/04/2008 11:10:42 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Mercia

Well, you can get to hear it a second time... I’ve played GTA before, and I didn’t really enjoy it much. I was mostly driving around, although I think my character wound up in a morally not-so-good state because I kept hitting anything and everything on accident, and shooting random stuff (and people, maybe?) while I was figuring out the controls. At that point, I’d take PGR or something any day if I was interested in games that involved driving. I prefer some FPS games, and really really love RPG’s (Fable for xbox and Assassin’s Creed for the 360 are my two favorites so far).


58 posted on 05/04/2008 11:12:53 AM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
MIKE: High everybody, welcome to the Satellite of Love, well, things have really got quiet here all of a sudden, and I'm kindof worried.. Usually when that happens, something explodes.

So I'm on my guard... (Crow suddenly runs screaming behind Mike) Told you so. (Then Servo runs behind Mike with a large weapon of some kind)

TOM: I'll get you! You wont get away from me ET!
MIKE: (Turning head and staring) Huh, well, Servo there has been playing some of those violent games on that new fangled Nintendo thing... What was the name of that game again?
TOM: (Pops head back on screen) Oh, that, DOOM 64, and Hexen 64, now I have some arse to roast! ("the chickens have come hommmmme to roost!")
MIKE: Well, personally, I've never got beyond the good stuff, the first Super Mario Brothers..
CROW: Mike help me out here! (runs behind Mike the other way. with Servo following)
MIKE: Pac Man.. Now that was a good game... Then they came out with that whole Zelda thing...
CROW: Mike I can really AHHH!! (a flash is seen off screen)
MIKE: I used to pump tons of quarters into that Pac-Man game... I think it was rigged..
TOM: Die! Die! Die! (Crow runs behind Mike with a huge hole in his beak, Servo runs by and shoots flames in Crow's direction. Crow screams, and Servo charges forward.)
MIKE: We'll be right back.. That guy who gave the quarters was a jerk...
MIKE: Ms Pac-man... Now that was a good game.. That guy who handed out the quarters had a thing against me... He mocks me in my dreams...
CROW: Hey Mike? Could you patch me up soon? (Crow is on fire and full of holes...) And maybe get Servo to apologize!?
TOM: Sorry, you just look like an imp...
CROW: That's no excuse to blow me to itty-bitty pieces!
TOM: Oh yes it is!
CROW: Oh no it isn't!
TOM: Oh yes it is!
CROW: Oh no it is- (mad light) Oh, TV's Fish is calling.
Mike?
MIKE: Oh yeah... Ms Pac-Man....
http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.tv.mst3k/msg/3c3f97e9b77c3216


59 posted on 05/04/2008 11:15:10 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: gogogodzilla
I couldn’t help but infer from your question that... 1. you don’t know much about the stuff that happened in the Balkans during the 1990s. and 2. you’ve probably judged the news, political events, and people based off that lack of knowledge. And the answer is that there really aren’t any Serbian Muslims. Muslims in that area tend to be either Bosnian or Albanian in ethnicity. And some of the Albanians decided that it’d be a great idea to move into Kosovo, and after a few decades, demand secession from Serbia.

Well the CIA Factbook would beg to differ:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rb.html#People

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/kv.html#People


60 posted on 05/04/2008 11:16:11 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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