Are Europeans and Americans letting true Civilization down by childish, internal quarrels?

03052008 | WesternCulture

[Tax-chick]

That’s very nice! I hope you’re right about a recovery in Europe.

[WesternCulture]

“That’s very nice! I hope you’re right about a recovery in Europe.”

- I think we are.

There is always a limit to stupidity. If we look at what happened last century over here in Europe, there is evidence in form of a certain man like Churchill coming to power.

Today, Germany and more or less all of Europe is free.

Visited Hamburg and Lübeck recently for a short vacation. Porsches, BMWs, Audis and MBs flooding city streets. But above all: a part of the world where tyranny has been defeated and replaced by democracy for good.

Greetings from Gothenburg, Sweden to Old North State and all of America,

WesternCulture

[Tax-chick]

But above all: a part of the world where tyranny has been defeated and replaced by democracy for good.

Until the EU bureaucracy becomes powerful enough to shut down the auto companies because they're cluttering the city streets ...

Greetings back - help yourself to some barbecue!

[WesternCulture]

“Greetings back - help yourself to some barbecue!”

- The weather suggests it, but actually I’m cooking Fussilli alla Napoletana today. Enjoying a bottle of Valpolicella to go with it.

Italian food - one of the greatest achievements of mankind!

As a European and a warm friend of La bell’Italia; thanks for not letting this glorious part of Europe slip into the hands of Stalin!

[Sender]

Here's some motivational Western culture for you. Cheers!

[fieldmarshaldj]

Wait a sec... I see Posh Spice trying to sneak into the photo on the extreme left side. :-P

[AIM-54]

I’ve noticed that threads regarding Sweden seen to be hijacked by morons faster than most others.

[WesternCulture]

Aren’t they beautiful?

I love my Volvo and I love Swedish midsummers drinking vodka (I’m boycotting Absolut though http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2000876/posts) watching the sun refusing to set, but there are actually even more beautiful aspects of Scandinavia!!

I can testify to it; Scandinavian women are out of this world.

[tarheelswamprat]

Thanks for such a thoughtful post. You made some very good observations and points worth considering. I truly hope your optimism about Europe “waking-up” will ultimately prove to be well-founded. I have no doubt that millions of Europeans are indeed doing just that, as are millions of Americans.

The problem, and crux of the matter, is whether this nascent sense of awakening has come too late, or has the cancer of cultural and philosophical decadence in Western civilization metasticized beyond the point of recovery.

We are in a race with time, and there are strong indicators that point to irreversible damage, e.g. the demographic time-bomb of declining Western birth rates versus soaring third-world (especially Europe’s Muslim immigrants) birth rates described by Mark Steyn and others.

Time will tell. It is heartening to read thoughtful comments such as yours. I would add that you’re in good company with one of my favorites among America’s Founding Fathers, Benjamin Franklin, who said: “We must all hang together, gentlemen, or we shall most assuredly hang separately”... /grin

[Sender]

Well let’s wait and see if that happens. I’ll let you know.

[WesternCulture]

“I’ve noticed that threads regarding Sweden seen to be hijacked by morons faster than most others.”

- I view that remark as rather good natured.

In this particular case, the poster expresses the view that Swedish babes are hotter than British ones:D

http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1956743

[WesternCulture]

Good thing to pound the earth at the same time as you, brother!

I can assure you Europe has a brighter future than most Westerners and especially our common enemies realize.

Listening to music of the Renaissance presently.

There will come a new one.

[Eternal_Bear]

Ahem, correction. Greece created Western Civilization. There was no civilization in Europe before them.

[Hiddigeigei]

What do the young people of Sweden and Europe (the ones who will have to do the heavy lifting if anything gets done) think about the collapse of western civilization? Or do they think?

[FORTRUTHONLY]

As an European myself I was quite puzzled and worried about your positive outlook on the US-Europe relations. While there has been, as of late, a conservative resurection, in the great plan of things it will not suffice in stopping Islam in Europe. It is already too late there and I am sure you will disagree. EU is bent to give Muslims more rights than to the European born (a mirrored behavior of what is starting to happen in US). Europeans give birth to 1-2 children while Muslims breed litters. The ratio of Non-Muslim vs Muslim it's already changing quite fast and they simply are taking over Europe like weeds in an unattended garden. True, we see glimpses of hope here and there by electing Sarkozy, Koehler and reelecting Berlusconi, we see glimpses of hope in the strong front put up by the Dutch, outraged by the killing of innocent people for simply speaking the truth about Islam, the Danes' own Jyllands-Posten newspaper fighting against it's right for freedom of expression. But this is not enough, it will not be enough until the whole continent of Europe remembers 1683 when the Ottoman Empire advanced as far as Vienna and ending in 1913 when they capitulated for good. But they are back, more organized, more devious and with a huge financial support which is aimed to conquering Europe. This European dolce far niente attitude is what will do Europe in.

Unfortunately....

[AIM-54]

I’ve stopped looking at the situation in term of nationalities.

For example, the Swedish government is absolutely pathetic and shameful by my standards, but it is essentially the same mentality that seems to permeate the US State Department, the Democrat party, and academia. Swedish politicians and bureaucrats betray their people in the same way that many American politicians and bureaucrats act against our interests.

You have to look at what the individual stands for. Increasingly, I’m avoiding generalizations. I find myself more on the side of some Europeans more than some Americans in many cases. Given the same opportunity and freedom, there are a great many Europeans that would outperform our Rosie O’Donnells, Nancy Peolsis, Michael Moores, Jerimiah Wrights, Ted Kennedys, and Keith Olbermanns. And even without the greater opportunity and freedoms, many Europeans still remain better people than a great many of our own. Then again, there are many who are worse.

The European media represent the European people about as much as the American media represents Americans. Any ‘superiority’ one may feel over ‘Euro-weenies’ is entirely attributable to the American Founding Fathers and very, very little to our individual selves. It’s something to consider before launching into your next gratuitous Euro-weenie bashing rant.

In many cases we do have shared values and common enemies.

Discernment is in order.

[AIM-54]

In this particular case, the poster expresses the view that Swedish babes are hotter than British ones

Alla svenska kvinnor är tyvärr inte så gynnad av lyckan, men vi måste forsätta hemligheten. :-)

[mjp]

Europe, you have a choice between 4 alternatives:
1)communist socialism
2)fascist socialism
3)Islam
4)American principles from the Age of Reason and the Age of Enlightenment.
I sure hope you can figure out which one is best.

[ReignOfError]

What would Lincoln or Churchill have had to say regarding this?

That the more things change, the more they stay the same. Lincoln faced internal strife (within the Union side itself) from the beginning to end of his presidency, and Churchill didn't have a united Britain until the Nazis were howling at their door and threatening their very existence.