RUSH: DEMOCRATS CHOSE JOHN McCAIN

www.rushlimbaugh.com ^ | May 1, 2008 | Rush Limbaugh

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Democrats Chose John McCain May 1, 2008

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RUSH: Mike in Warren, Ohio.
Nice to have you, sir, on the EIB Network.

CALLER: Oh, hi, Rush.
All right. I'm calling about Operation Chaos --

RUSH: Yes?

CALLER: -- which so far has been, you know, an incredible success. I don't need tell you that.
I just turned 18, and it was my first election, and I live in Ohio, and, you know, I voted for Clinton to throw off the whole Dems.
Basically my question is this. Since it's been so successful, what do you think...?
How do you think...?
You know, what can we do to prevent the Democrats from trying this, you know, on the Republicans?

RUSH: They've been doing it!

CALLER: You know, doing their own Operation Chaos in 2012.

RUSH: No, no, no, no!
This is a great question. You're 18?

CALLER: Yes.

RUSH: And so you have some things have happened, you were not old enough to pay close enough attention.
Who do you think picked John McCain as the Republican Party nominee?
You think Republicans picked him?

CALLER: I assume more liberal and mainstream Republicans would vote for him.

RUSH: No, no, no.
Do you think Republican primary voters nominated McCain?

CALLER: Probably more independents.

RUSH: Uh-huh. And Democrats crossing over in places like New Hampshire, it was Michigan in 2000.
The Democrat Party chose our nominee.
They didn't put him over the top, but they gave him the early lead in the early states where there were not a whole lot of conservative Republicans in these early primary states.
The Democrats have been doing this as long as I have been alive and longer.
This is balance! This is us playing by their rules.
To worry about if they turn it around?
They have never been this effective.
Well, they have, but they've had the whole Drive-By Media urging voters to do this and getting their message out.
We are but one show, and we have equaled and surpassed their efforts in the past.
Fear not on this.

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[calcowgirl]

Most of us never took him seriously until close to the end - remember, just last August he seemed dead in the water ....

Oh, he's been taken seriously since at least 1999 on FR -- and pretty soundly rejected for his views.

Not much has changed, although there seem to be a lot of new McCain cheerleaders signing up these days talking about "most of US ... " and "WE need to support him." And of course, since then John has added to his repetoire: Bashing Bush, Global Warming, McCain-Feingold, CIRA, etc.

[1035rep]

I found this at The American Patriot.

McCain’s lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union is 83, comparable to Thompson’s 86. It is worth noting that the ACU does not rate voting records on how they comport with the Constitution, but how they comport with contemporaneous Republican mandates — which are not always one and the same.
He has been ranked favorably by other conservative organizations: National Federation of Independent Business — 100 percent; Concerned Women for America — 100 percent; Family Research Council — 100 percent; National Tax Limitation Committee — 94 percent; Citizens Against Government Waste — 91 percent; and the National Taxpayers Union — 88 percent.
However, all Patriots should take pause at McCain’s C+ rating from the National Rifle Association, and his lack of clear support for the Second Amendment, the “palladium of all other rights.”

[DoughtyOne]

If the Dems are in the White House, we will rally to oppose them.

Rally how and with what?? Have you watched many cspan House and Senate sessions? A Dem. president AND a Dem. congress? Please, God, no.

The House and Senate will be the House and Senate no matter what.  The question is, will there be ANY oppostion to the leftist President that will be installed next spring?

If Clinton or Obama become President, every single Republican in the Senate and the House will oppose them.

If John McCain becomes President, not more than five members of the House or two members of the Senate will oppose him.

What happens when leftist agenda is on the floor in the Senate and Congress?  Do we have an opposition to the leftist in the White House or not?

With Clinton or Obama, we do.  With McCain, we simply do not.

Without an opposition, do we turn Congress back to the Republicans in 2010?  No

With an opposition, do we turn Congress back to the Repubicans in 2010?  There's a good possibility.

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Senator John McCain wants to be the figure-head of Conservatism.  Okay, lets think that out...

John McCain becomes President.  He's still the same old John McCain.

The RNC backs his liberal policies to maintain a position of power
The Republicans in Congress back his polices to maintain access to the White House
Republican candidates for Congressional seats move to the left, since John McCain proved that moving to the left assures RNC support  and votes
The Republican party leadership at the state level moves left as McCain and the RNC demand it
Republican candidates at the state level move to the left, since John McCain proved that moving to the left assures Republican support and votes
Republican Conservative office holders across the nation will be silenced
Apologists on Conservative forums across this nation defend McCain against the few Conservatives who are left, and attack them there (forums move left)
Last but not least, the Democrats move even farther left to differentiate themselves from McCain

Who writes Conservative bills and rams them through state or federal government after that?

Who talks about Conservatism from a position of power?  Who takes the chance to disagree with McCain on anything?

Under a John McCain Presidency, Conservatism ceases to become a movement, and becomes a theory.  It will no longer be practiced by enough politicians to be viable.

Under leftist McCain, there is no functional opposition.  Promoting leftist policy, it all passes without opposition, nobody objects to the liberal policies
Under leftist Hillary or Barack, there is not only a functional opposition, it grows by leaps and bounds in objection to their policies

We saw what a one party system did to Arkansas under Clinton.  It was terrible.  Now we want to install that in our federal government, leftists one and all.

No thanks.  Color me dumb, but I'm not voting to turn the U.S. into 1980s Arkansas.

LINK: Welcome to McCain's impact on the Republican National Committee, it's happening
LINK: Welcome to McCain's impact on future candidates, it's being advocated
LINK: Welcome to McCain's impact on State level Republican party leadership, it's happening
LINK: Welcome to McCain's impact on Republican Conservative office holder voices, it's happening
LINK: Welcome to McCain's impact on Conservative forums, it's happening

Folks, you either wake the hell up, or doom conservatism to oblivion.  After November the 4th, it's too late.  You will have silenced Conservatism in our nation for four or eight years, and quite possibly forever.

[DoughtyOne]

I say a McCain victory installs 1980s Arkansas at the federal level.

You say a McCain victory installs a 2008 California at the federal level.

Each is a pretty good summary of what Washington, D.C. will be like under McCain.

Clinton or Obama in the White House is like the White House of 1994, one where Congress flipped back to the Republicans.

If we could survive eight years of Bill, we could survive four of Hillary or Obama.

Conservatism does not survive one year of McCain.

[llandres]

“...a guy who is going to push their Global Warming agenda, closing Guantanamo, ending water boarding of terrorists...”

I know. But I’ve come to some new conclusions about the above, all of which greatly concern me. I think most of these statements are made for political expediency, to appeal to the masses, in order to please the most voters. A) His hands will be way too full (hopefully) to significantly pursue global warming, B) if he doesn’t already know the disastrous implications of closing Gitmo and bringing these thugs into our U.S. court system, he’ll immediately get a come-to-Jesus education on it once he takes office, and C) he’s GOT to know better - waterboarding, carefully and properly carried out, is NOT torture - indeed, our OWN military/special ops trainees all undergo it. If he doesn’t know this, then back to B) come-to-Jesus education by top intelligence.

Another case of Confidence: the feeling you have before you know the (real) situation.

[DoughtyOne]

Yep, I appreciate you bringing those stats up again.

Tell me, how does it sit with you that he voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter? How does it sit with you that he advocated for the U.S. government to put the issue of MIAs behind it, so it could normalize relations with North Vietnam?

I’ll never vote for John McCain.

[llandres]

“If Hillary Clinton gets in, Conservatives will oppose her with all their might.”

WHAT might? Have you seen that not only conservatives, but Republicans, are a congressional MINORITY. And if something doesn’t change in Nov., Dems will take over the crucial 60 vote swing in the Senate. Because of the REAL might of Pelosi, Reid and their ilk, we can’t even get FISA or Columbian Free Trade Agreement on the floor of the House for either debate or even an up/down vote.

[DB]

I have to say that I tend to agree.

I think Hillary's liberal agenda would be easier to stop than McCain's. And as the consequences come home to roost it will be put at the feet of the “Republicans” and not the dems where it belongs. I also think it would be much easier for the Republicans to get the majority back in congress with Hillary as President instead of McCain. When Republicans act like Democrats lite, they get replaced with real Democrats.

[llandres]

Listen, this is the most disappointing choice I can remember in all my voting years. I’m NOT happy or enthusiastic about McCain being IT.

But, please, offer an alternative solution at this point, what outcome you’d like to see in November, with what’s on the table.

[llandres]

Yes, I saw this also a little while back. Thanks for posting it.

[Jeff Chandler]

Ah, heck, I guess I’m going to vote for the old fart.

[llandres]

What happens with the North American Union comes up?

This NAU has been in the works and planned through secret meetings, for YEARS through SEVERAL administrations. I agree, it’s a sinister thing - so is the UN.

But this isn’t a new or recent agenda.

[DoughtyOne]

...a guy who is going to push their Global Warming agenda, closing Guantanamo, ending water boarding of terrorists...

I know. But I’ve come to some new conclusions about the above, all of which greatly concern me. I think most of these statements are made for political expediency, to appeal to the masses, in order to please the most voters. A) His hands will be way too full (hopefully) to significantly pursue global warming, B) if he doesn’t already know the disastrous implications of closing Gitmo and bringing these thugs into our U.S. court system, he’ll immediately get a come-to-Jesus education on it once he takes office, and C) he’s GOT to know better - waterboarding, carefully and properly carried out, is NOT torture - indeed, our OWN military/special ops trainees all undergo it. If he doesn’t know this, then back to B) come-to-Jesus education by top intelligence.

Another case of Confidence: the feeling you have before you know the (real) situation.

I'm saying this in the kindest way I know how, but you are living in a make believe world.  John has made it crystal clear what his views on these topics are.  You know he has and you address the problem with that here.

Instead of you taking what you know and making a rational conclusion, you acknowledge the problem and express numerous ways YOU HOPE he will be brought back to reality.  Bud, you should be thinking along the same lines for yourself.  John is a grown man, who has held these views for some time.  He doesn't think he's off base.  He thinks you and I are.  Why would he possibly come back to a reality he doesn't accept?  It is you that needs to come back to reality, because you have a lot more chance of it than John McCain ever will.  And I think you know this.  Accept John for who he has told us he is.

John doesn't understand that we must not grant civil trials to these terrorists.
John doesn't understand the problems with bringing terrorists into mainland prisons.
John doesn't understand how the left will use protests outside these prisons to destroy our anti-terrorist policies.
John doesn't understand the danger of having those terrorists on our soil where the public and get close to the prison.
John doesn't understand that water boarding is not torture.
John doesn't understand that terrorists are not covered by the Geneva Conventions, and should never be.

If John cannot grasp these issues, quite important to the military aspects of our War on Terrorism, why do you think he would be a good CIC?  Frankly having John in that position scares the hell out of me, every bit as much as having Hillary or Obama there.

[Caipirabob]

I wish Rush wouldn’t promote cigar smoking on his site. I know that one once in a while is no big deal, but those are pretty bad for your health and can produce some awful mouth cancer.

True, but it is a wonderful luxury for those that don't abuse it. Problem is that tobacco by nature is addictive. I'm somewhat fortunate in that I have never become addicted to tobacco. Yet I really, really enjoy a good cigar 2-4 times a years. Always with some good friends on a festive occasion. I don't enjoy it if I smoke it myself.

That being said, I support people's rights to smoke, drink, dance and sing karaoke badly.

[bmwcyle]

No, you are the idiot.

[1035rep]

John McCain also voted for Roberts and Alito.

I don't agree with many things that John McCain has done but the other two are unthinkable.

I can vote for McCain and I certainly respect your right not to.

[calcowgirl]

I know. But I’ve come to some new conclusions about the above, all of which greatly concern me. I think most of these statements are made for political expediency, to appeal to the masses, in order to please the most voters. A) His hands will be way too full (hopefully) to significantly pursue global warming...

Are you kidding me? Either you haven't studied this or you just want to insult my intelligence. He has said that Global Warming is among his TOP priorities! ON PAR with the WOT. He has SPONSORED multiple pieces of legislation. Heck... even the American Conservative Union (ACU) was doing mass mailings a couple years ago to Republicans pointing out the dangers of the McCain-Lieberman Climate Stewardship Bill explaining the 100+ BILLION economic damage it would cause. Since then, that legislation has become more onerous and costly--and McCain is still touting it.

STOP SOROS, GORE AND MCCAIN
EMail from ACU ^ | 6/4/2004 | David Kein
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2004 3:19:01 AM by JesseHousman

Another case of Confidence: the feeling you have before you know the (real) situation.

And by this, you mean what?

[Ulysse]

McCAIN will support more leftist programs than Kennedy in his entire lifetime......If you say so...

And more than H.Clintoon or Obama?....

[llandres]

“John doesn’t understand that we must not grant civil trials to these terrorists.
John doesn’t understand the problems with bringing terrorists into mainland prisons.
John doesn’t understand how the left will use protests outside these prisons to destroy our anti-terrorist policies.
John doesn’t understand the danger of having those terrorists on our soil where the public and get close to the prison.
John doesn’t understand that water boarding is not torture.
John doesn’t understand that terrorists are not covered by the Geneva Conventions, and should never be.”

All the above have preyed on my mind for quite some time. And I agree with you, based on everything he’s public said. I guess to a large degree I AM hoping - hoping that either he privately knows better or that he’ll be given the real story by advisers and experts. Because, as you just said, BHO and HRC are a certainty of disaster on all the above never any doubt about it. I mean, McCain constantly speaks about security, jihadist threats, etc., and the other two hardly mention it at all. So I do believe JSM cares about that, but to think he could be SO ill-informed and misguided to that end, is incomprehensible.

[DoughtyOne]

If Hillary Clinton gets in, Conservatives will oppose her with all their might.

WHAT might?  Every Republican in Congress will oppose Hillary when she proposes the same things John McCain will.  John McCain himself stated that he and Hillary were very much alike.  He said to Hillary (paraphrased), "If you and I run against each other, it will be one of the most docile campaigns in U.S. history, because our views are so much alike."  I didn't say this.  John McCain did.

Have you seen that not only conservatives, but Republicans, are a congressional MINORITY.

Listen carefully okay.  Give this some thought.  If the Republicans only muster 39 seats in the Senate, then that's what they do.  It will be 39 seats whether Hillary gets elected or John gets elected.  In most instances, policies proposed or supported by the two will be quite similar.  If Hillary proposes it, at least 39 people will oppose her.  If John opposes it, about two will oppose him.

You are terrified that only 39 might oppose Hillary if she proposes what John would have anyway, but have no concern at all that only 2 would oppose John, when he supported the same thing.  61 would oppose our views if Hillary supported something.  98 would oppose our views if John McCain supported it.

And if something doesn’t change in Nov., Dems will take over the crucial 60 vote swing in the Senate. Because of the REAL might of Pelosi, Reid and their ilk, we can’t even get FISA or Columbian Free Trade Agreement on the floor of the House for either debate or even an up/down vote.

You don't know that any more than you know that John McCain will definately be elected.