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Leagues staunch on BCS future
OnlineAthens.com ^ | April 29, 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/30/2008 6:17:08 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta

HOLLYWOOD, Fla. - If only the Big Ten and Pac-10 weren't so stubbornly loyal to the Rose Bowl, the BCS would be on its way to a playoff.

That's the perception - though not the reality - and it's allowed the other conferences like the SEC to be safely noncommittal about the possibility of turning the Bowl Championship Series into a four-team major college football playoff.

"I think the characterization of the Big Ten and Pac-10 being at one place and everyone else being at the other place, I don't think it's accurate," Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany told reporters Tuesday during a break in the BCS meetings at a beachfront hotel.

"Just because somebody says they're open-minded and interested in looking at other models doesn't mean they're committed to it."

Clearly the Rose Bowl and its separate TV contract with ABC is a major hurdle for the BCS to clear if it wants to adopt the so-called plus-one format. Delany and Pac-10 commissioner Tom Hansen have said they do not support it.

One magazine even dubbed the Rose Bowl alliance 'The Axis of Obstruction."

(Excerpt) Read more at onlineathens.com ...


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Solution: Leave the Big Ten and Pac-10 out of the national title and playoff games.
1 posted on 04/30/2008 6:17:09 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: GOP_Raider

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2 posted on 04/30/2008 6:18:51 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: FreeAtlanta

The only way the Big Ten is going to get stronger in a top-to-bottom sense is to start focusing outward on a playoff. I have to laugh at all the Big Ten propaganda that I read when I’m following the ‘progress’ of Penn State.


3 posted on 04/30/2008 6:21:08 AM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Jim Delany’s power plays are well-documented.

The BCS exists simply to protect the status quo.

An NCAA playoff would rival the Super Bowl for ratings and revenue; with multiple games/weekends it would be an even bigger bonanza.

However - it might expose the shortcomings of the Big 10 so Delany will oppose it forever.


4 posted on 04/30/2008 6:23:49 AM PDT by relictele
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To: relictele

I would agree a playoff would be cool, but only like 4 teams should be allowed. Otherwise, the season is going to get ridiculously long.


5 posted on 04/30/2008 6:27:52 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator
8 teams

4 are eliminated the first week of December
2 are elminated the next week
Championship Baby!!! And, only 2 extra games for the championship. All done in December. Even a 16 team playoff could be done before January classes start up.

6 posted on 04/30/2008 6:40:53 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: KC_Conspirator

I have little sympathy for that argument, simply because I-AA (excuse me, Division I Football Championship Subdivision) teams play fifteen games if they go to the national championship game. Appalachian State has played FORTY-FIVE games the past three years winning back-to-back-to-back national championships.

I-AA uses a sixteen-team playoff, played at home sites, except for the final which is always in Chattanooga. And it works. I know we’ll never get the arrogant I-A coaches and ADs to agree to it, but a similar playoff format in major college football would be an amazing event.

}:-)4


7 posted on 04/30/2008 6:42:23 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: Moose4
Well, then you are going to have to slim down those non-conference games, because there is no way you can get the regular 4 in during September. Then also you are going to have get rid of those rainmaking conference championship games.

See now this poses a problem.

8 posted on 04/30/2008 6:51:30 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Moose4

Exactly....Not only Div 1-AA, but Div II and Div III also have 16 team playoffs...
Why, if it’s not too “strenuous” on these schools, is it too much for the so-called majors???

It is the almighty dollar and ego....they just can’t and wont admit it...


9 posted on 04/30/2008 6:54:12 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: Boonie

There is a parity in the lower divisions that does not exist in 1-A. Also, the season starts with teams ranked based on last year’s performance and the projection of where sports writers think they should be. Some teams, even get ranked too high because there was a movie made about the life of a human tackling dummy. This is how you can end up with an undefeated team not being in the play-offs because they are not from The Hall of Dynasties. You want real play-offs? Do away with the Conferences. That will never happen.


10 posted on 04/30/2008 7:29:52 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Moose4

I completely agree. My alma mater is in I-AA, and it works just fine, with the best teams all vying for a shot at the title. I-AA, or FCS, is good football.


11 posted on 04/30/2008 7:41:39 AM PDT by SoDak (Anyone but Obama)
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To: FreeAtlanta
College athletics is very expensive. Football and mens basketball (in some schools) are the only sports that generate money for an athletic department. Programs without successful football or basketball teams struggle to get the dollars to fund athletics.

One reason that it will be difficult to convince the conferences to go with a playoff system is because the conferences get loads of money from the bowl game when a team from their conference is competing. That money is then split among all the conference members. BCS games gave each conference 14-17 million dollars. Even the small bowl games contribute at least $500,000.

If the bowl games become playoff games, then money is concentrated in just a few conferences. It's the unsuccessful schools from lesser conferences that would suffer. If someone figures out how to financially help those schools out in the process, then those schools would go along with the play-off system.

I know this system amounts to socialism. I am not commenting that it is right or wrong. I am only trying to point out why the conferences resist the playoff system.

By the way, I used to be an assistant college football coach and these were the things that we talked about in regards to playoffs.

12 posted on 04/30/2008 8:35:34 AM PDT by rightsmart
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13 posted on 04/30/2008 12:04:20 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Let's Get Cup Crazy! Let's Go Sharks!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

They are the weak conferences of the majors. Let them play for the Rose while the rest of play for a real championship.


14 posted on 04/30/2008 1:50:05 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: The South Texan
They are the weak conferences of the majors. Let them play for the Rose while the rest of play for a real championship.

LOL

I think you are series here.

I am willing to bet that the Big Ten and Pac 10 have a better combined BCS winning record then the combined record of ACC, Big 12, Big East and SEC and at least as many appearances per league.

15 posted on 04/30/2008 3:24:10 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Michael.SF.; The South Texan
They are weak now. They will be weaker if left out of the national title hunt. They will eventually want in... probably before the first game gets played.

Leave the pansies.. ump rose boys out of the play-offs!

16 posted on 04/30/2008 5:30:20 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: FreeAtlanta
People love to beat up on the Pac 10, and often lump the Big 10 with them, but I note you are not taking me up on the bet.

USC has had a ride for the ages in these last few years, one unmatched by any team from the "better" leagues, since the 50's. It is a shame that those who hate USC were not able to enjoy it.

17 posted on 04/30/2008 8:17:34 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Michael.SF.

A lot of USC’s fame may have been because they didn’t have a lot of teams to beat them up. Sort of like Ohio St. getting into the championship 2 years in a row, only USC is more talented.


18 posted on 05/01/2008 4:58:11 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: FreeAtlanta

They have won 70 games in six years, no one else has done that in recent times (Texas is close with 65) sure there are a few patsies on the schedule, everyone has them. Texas for example, every year they play Rice and Baylor then mix in a few games against Houston or North Texas and you have a three wins for the season guaranteed.


19 posted on 05/01/2008 8:14:48 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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“Some teams, even get ranked too high because there was a movie made about the life of a human tackling dummy.”

Eh eh. I just watched that movie the other night. I wish Hollywood would make more movies about College football


20 posted on 05/01/2008 9:29:15 AM PDT by rockthecasbah (He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat.)
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