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Poorly Behaved Soldiers Promoted
Time ^ | Tuesday, April 29, 2008 | By AP/LOLITA C. BALDOR

Posted on 04/29/2008 3:56:22 PM PDT by swmobuffalo

(WASHINGTON) — Soldiers who need special waivers to get into the Army because of bad behavior go AWOL more often and face more courts-martial. But they also get promoted faster and re-enlist at a higher rate, according to an internal military study obtained by The Associated Press.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; badconduct; recruitment
Don't like the headline, it's misleading.
1 posted on 04/29/2008 3:56:22 PM PDT by swmobuffalo
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To: swmobuffalo

Misleading? You can’t expect different from Time and AP.


2 posted on 04/29/2008 3:57:38 PM PDT by SolidWood
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To: swmobuffalo

We are poor little lambs...

who have lost our way...

Baa Baa Baa


3 posted on 04/29/2008 4:00:05 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: swmobuffalo

Yes, quite a misleading headline. The story in fact shows that, far from the minor increase in the number of “special waiver” recruits, there is a real reason to allow such waivers.

They are risks. Some turn out poorly, but others turn out to be the best soldiers.

Obviously, those who go awol are not being promoted.


4 posted on 04/29/2008 4:03:44 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: swmobuffalo

Traditionally, a nation sends its dregs of society into the Army to fight its foreign wars. The U.S. military is different...we send our best and brightest.


5 posted on 04/29/2008 4:05:13 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: swmobuffalo
Amazing, the same clowns in the Junk Media who feverishly defend a Criminal Justice system that routinely put people back out on the street time after time after time to comity repeat violent felonies want the US Military to adopt a zero tolerance policy when it comes to recruiting!
6 posted on 04/29/2008 4:07:10 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: swmobuffalo
Yes it's misleading but not surprising for AP or Time.

Waivers have been a controversial issue for the military in recent months

They are not controversial for the military, they are controversial for the libtard media, elected officials and antiwar nuts that pick apart everything our military does.

7 posted on 04/29/2008 4:09:12 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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That makes sense to me (mother of three sons).

It’s the troublemakers, the defiant, the headstrong, who have a lot of potential IF properly disciplined and inspired.

I can imagine many boys with JD records of one type or another could grow up to be fine leaders.


8 posted on 04/29/2008 5:01:20 PM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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And this proud, former soldier from Reagan’s Army, the one the Commies feared, can see your point, Marie, mother of 3. Aggressive, ass-kicking, hard-heads who liked the Army were the bee’s knees back in the 80’s. Loud-mouthed, bull-headed go-getters, on a short leash, under proper direction, are the backbone of any efficient Army.


9 posted on 04/29/2008 5:09:40 PM PDT by flowerplough (I suck at Photoshop)
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“The U.S. military is different...we send our best and brightest.”

The scum of our country become journalists...or politicians.


10 posted on 04/29/2008 5:19:24 PM PDT by Levante
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To: flowerplough
I hear that. Too bad, after reaching the ripe 'old' geezerhood age of 44, I can't re-enlist - they kept yanking that max threshold back about six months behind me after 9/11. Maybe it takes me a touch longer to get the plugs hot, but I can still go like a railcar switching diesel.


11 posted on 04/29/2008 5:43:08 PM PDT by Viking2002 (I hope the AG pounds the Mann Act up Spitzer's ass with a sharp stick.)
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To: Viking2002

You should be able to enlist in the Guard or Reserves with an easy to get waiver.


12 posted on 04/29/2008 6:04:21 PM PDT by Swiss
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To: swmobuffalo
The headline is misleading, however... There is a trend on FR to give the military nothing but praise. While it is a nice change from the media's constant mischaracterisation (slander) there's nothing wrong with a healthy critique.

The Army's promotion system is terrible. I personally have been promoted at a decent rate, so this isn't a personal grudge. However, I have seen way too many who have no business getting promoted get promoted fast. And I have seen many others (some of my best workers) be denied promotions and subsequently either get out or refuse reenlistment.

The Army is not a meritocracy in the fashion the civilian world is. You could be completely incompetent at your actual job and quite easily be promoted to senior NCO. Or you could be very talented in your field and be passed by for promotion because your rater has a personal grudge or simply because your MOS is being discontinued.

13 posted on 04/29/2008 8:32:53 PM PDT by douginthearmy
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I guess learning from mistakes does not count according to this rag. Even me who was not in any trouble as a teenager still learned how to be an adult in the military. God only knows what would have become of me without that discipline and training. I for one thank God for the military.


14 posted on 04/29/2008 10:57:52 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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