Its Future Uncertain, Barrier on the Border Going Up Quickly(Finally!)

breitbart.com ^ | Apr 28, 2008 | EILEEN SULLIVAN

[kellynla]

Chertoff agrees.

"All I can do is carry the ball as far down the field as I can while I'm in the game," he said. "I've got to hand it off to somebody else."

And his replacement won't come soon enough for me!
Where they find all these incompetent buffoons is a mystery to me!
They must hand out "college degrees" in boxes of Cracker Jack around D.C.

[kellynla]

ping

[Slapshot68]

“For others, the fence is inconsistent with a country founded by immigrants and priding itself on opportunity.”

No one’s saying you can’t come here...but it’s going to be on our terms, not the immigrant’s.

[uncbob]

For others, the fence is inconsistent with a country founded by immigrants and priding itself on opportunity.

The majority of which exist in the writers mind

[johnny7]

Americans are split pretty much the same way: half in favor, half against...

That's what you get... when you only poll DemocRAT'S!

[kellynla]

"No one’s saying you can’t come here...but it’s going to be on our terms, not the immigrant’s."

Funny...you, me and every levelheaded American understands that...too bad the geniuses in D.C. have a problem grasping it!

[LadyNavyVet]

“For others, the fence is inconsistent with a country founded by immigrants and priding itself on opportunity.”

Which is ironic when you consider that some of the same people who advocate for open borders also wax poetic about Ellis Island, which was a checkpoint to decide if people could come in or not. Immigrants were routinely turned away from Ellis Island if they didn’t meet certain criteria, were shown to be diseased, etc. We’ve always been a welcoming nation, but we’ve always had standards, too.

[Travis McGee]

"Border Reality 101"

This is what most of our southern border still looks like: there is no government-built fence at all. There is often just whatever is left over from some forgotten cattle fence, built privately to keep U.S. cattle from wandering freely into Mexico. For hundreds of miles there is not even a broken cattle fence, there is nothing at all.

For comparison, below the broken cattle fence photo is a sample of an inexpensive but highly effective double border fence system, with a plowed strip to reveal footprints. This type of system is very cheap and can be built with great speed.

Here is what some of San Diego County has: a wall made of rusty Viet Nam-era runway mats. The corrugations are even horizontal, (to make climbing easier?)

Here is what the border looks like where the runway mat wall exists. Mexico begins on the other side of the ineffective rusty wall, which actually helps the smugglers, by hiding their movements until the occasional USBP vehicle has driven out of sight.

This is how "the game" is played. Smugglers hide on the other side of the wall with their dope and/or their illegals, out of sight of the USBP. They wait for the highly visible white BP vehicle to drive over the distant hills. Lookouts with cell phones and walkie-talkies report on the current locations of the BP units. They know with certainty that "the coast is clear" for an hour or two, and the smugglers and illegals hop the fence and run into the scrub only 50 yards away. From there, they are out of sight, and they walk 1-2 miles to holding houses. Then they wait for nightfall, and are picked up and driven in vans to LA or San Diego.

Next, we see the Duncan Hunter 15' fence, which is already being built along a few "showplace" miles of San Diego, mainly near the ports of entry, where panderng politicians can conveniently show it off to gullible reporters. As you can see, the rusty runway wall is seen at the left side, Mexico begins on the other side. In areas with the 15 foot fence, dope smugglers and illegals will have to cross the open sand ("the government road" as it is called) before starting to try to get over the 15 foot fence.

This new fence is extremely tough, and resists cutting. Attacking the fence would have to be done right out in the open, in full view of cameras. This type of fence, on the U.S. side of the government road, will give the USBP a barrier to patrol, instead of forcing them to chase illegals around 100,000 square miles of wide-open frontier land, which is a fool's errand. Everywhere this modern multiple fence system has been built, crossings by illegals drop to almost nil.

This ain't rocket science, folks. We're not talking about something like the Hoover Dam project, (which we managed to build 70 years ago). The world's last superpower, which put a man on the moon 35 years ago, can build a couple thousand miles of simple and effective fencing.

This is how it's being built in San Diego county, along the last 14 miles out to the ocean. The total cost of the entire fence from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific would be about 5 billion dollars, or what we spend medicating, hospitalizing, educating, and incarcerating illegal aliens just about every month. In other words, the fence would pay for itself immediately.

Or, we can continue our current policy.

[2harddrive]

Do they also say that vault doors at a bank are inconsistent with the idea of an honest population?

[Southack]

The 700 miles of border fence mentioned in this article won’t pacify the unappeaseables...they’ll still criticize, gripe, and moan about our “open borders” no matter how many fences are built.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

The 700 miles of border fence mentioned in this article won’t pacify the unappeaseables...they’ll still criticize, gripe, and moan about our “open borders” no matter how many fences are built.

The border is somewhat longer than 700 miles. I don't know what is unreasonable about putting up a fence along the entire border.

[kellynla]

You’ll pardon me if I don’t dignify that load of manure you’re unloading on my thread with a response. LOL

[SoConPubbie]

The 700 miles of border fence mentioned in this article won’t pacify the unappeaseables...they’ll still criticize, gripe, and moan about our “open borders” no matter how many fences are built.

Tearing down all the fence and allowing 10 million illegals to overrun the US every year won't placate the open borders crowd, they'll still be screaming for the US to provide Amnesty to all Illegals and inviting the whole of central America to immigrate illegally to the US.

See, I can play the game of Hyperbole just as well as you can!

[kellynla]

“The border is somewhat longer than 700 miles. I don’t know what is unreasonable about putting up a fence along the entire border.”

Save your fingers, there are still a small percentage of geniuses on FR who have yet to figure out why they have a fence at the WH. LMAO

[SoConPubbie]

The 700 miles of border fence mentioned in this article won’t pacify the unappeaseables...they’ll still criticize, gripe, and moan about our “open borders” no matter how many fences are built.

I see another McCain supporter has checked in.

[tumblindice]

“the unappeaseables...they’ll still criticize, gripe, and moan”

A Kansas farm wife called the local phone company to report her telephone failed to ring when her friends called - and that on the few occasions, when it did ring, her dog always moaned right before the phone rang.

The telephone repairman proceeded to the scene, curious to see this psychic dog or senile lady. He climbed a telephone pole, hooked in his test set, and dialed the subscriber’s house.

The phone didn’t ring right away, but then the dog moaned and the telephone began to ring.

Climbing down from the pole, the telephone repairman found:

1. The dog was tied to the telephone system’s ground wire with a steel chain and collar.

2. The wire connection to the ground rod was loose.

3. The dog was receiving 90 volts of signaling current when the number was called.

4. After a couple of jolts, the dog would start moaning and then urinate.

5. The wet ground would complete the circuit, thus causing the phone to ring.

Which demonstrates that some problems CAN be fixed by pissing and moaning.

Thought you’d like to know.

[kellynla]

Thank you!

That’s a “keeper!” BIG SMILE!

[tumblindice]

De nada, FRamigo.

[DuncanWaring]

When you’re leaving your house for the day, do you lock both the front door AND the back door, or do you just lock one and say “good enough”?

[Southack]

Who locks their doors in Alabama?!