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Chertoff agrees.

"All I can do is carry the ball as far down the field as I can while I'm in the game," he said. "I've got to hand it off to somebody else."

And his replacement won't come soon enough for me!
Where they find all these incompetent buffoons is a mystery to me!
They must hand out "college degrees" in boxes of Cracker Jack around D.C.

1 posted on 04/29/2008 5:17:46 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; Travis McGee

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2 posted on 04/29/2008 5:18:15 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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“For others, the fence is inconsistent with a country founded by immigrants and priding itself on opportunity.”

No one’s saying you can’t come here...but it’s going to be on our terms, not the immigrant’s.


3 posted on 04/29/2008 5:21:21 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: kellynla
For others, the fence is inconsistent with a country founded by immigrants and priding itself on opportunity.

The majority of which exist in the writers mind
4 posted on 04/29/2008 5:26:13 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: kellynla
Americans are split pretty much the same way: half in favor, half against...

That's what you get... when you only poll DemocRAT'S!

5 posted on 04/29/2008 5:27:03 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: kellynla
"Border Reality 101"

This is what most of our southern border still looks like: there is no government-built fence at all. There is often just whatever is left over from some forgotten cattle fence, built privately to keep U.S. cattle from wandering freely into Mexico. For hundreds of miles there is not even a broken cattle fence, there is nothing at all.

For comparison, below the broken cattle fence photo is a sample of an inexpensive but highly effective double border fence system, with a plowed strip to reveal footprints. This type of system is very cheap and can be built with great speed.

Here is what some of San Diego County has: a wall made of rusty Viet Nam-era runway mats. The corrugations are even horizontal, (to make climbing easier?)

Here is what the border looks like where the runway mat wall exists. Mexico begins on the other side of the ineffective rusty wall, which actually helps the smugglers, by hiding their movements until the occasional USBP vehicle has driven out of sight.

This is how "the game" is played. Smugglers hide on the other side of the wall with their dope and/or their illegals, out of sight of the USBP. They wait for the highly visible white BP vehicle to drive over the distant hills. Lookouts with cell phones and walkie-talkies report on the current locations of the BP units. They know with certainty that "the coast is clear" for an hour or two, and the smugglers and illegals hop the fence and run into the scrub only 50 yards away. From there, they are out of sight, and they walk 1-2 miles to holding houses. Then they wait for nightfall, and are picked up and driven in vans to LA or San Diego.

Next, we see the Duncan Hunter 15' fence, which is already being built along a few "showplace" miles of San Diego, mainly near the ports of entry, where panderng politicians can conveniently show it off to gullible reporters. As you can see, the rusty runway wall is seen at the left side, Mexico begins on the other side. In areas with the 15 foot fence, dope smugglers and illegals will have to cross the open sand ("the government road" as it is called) before starting to try to get over the 15 foot fence.

This new fence is extremely tough, and resists cutting. Attacking the fence would have to be done right out in the open, in full view of cameras. This type of fence, on the U.S. side of the government road, will give the USBP a barrier to patrol, instead of forcing them to chase illegals around 100,000 square miles of wide-open frontier land, which is a fool's errand. Everywhere this modern multiple fence system has been built, crossings by illegals drop to almost nil.

This ain't rocket science, folks. We're not talking about something like the Hoover Dam project, (which we managed to build 70 years ago). The world's last superpower, which put a man on the moon 35 years ago, can build a couple thousand miles of simple and effective fencing.

This is how it's being built in San Diego county, along the last 14 miles out to the ocean. The total cost of the entire fence from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific would be about 5 billion dollars, or what we spend medicating, hospitalizing, educating, and incarcerating illegal aliens just about every month. In other words, the fence would pay for itself immediately.

Or, we can continue our current policy.


8 posted on 04/29/2008 5:52:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: kellynla

Do they also say that vault doors at a bank are inconsistent with the idea of an honest population?


9 posted on 04/29/2008 6:02:23 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: kellynla

The 700 miles of border fence mentioned in this article won’t pacify the unappeaseables...they’ll still criticize, gripe, and moan about our “open borders” no matter how many fences are built.


10 posted on 04/29/2008 6:24:56 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: kellynla
It can seem a shaky foundation as the United States rushes to complete the fencing on nearly 700 miles of the border by the end of the year. That's when a new administration arrives in the White House with its own ideas about security, freedom, the 11 million 20 to 30 million illegal immigrants already here and the prospect of many more on the way.

More accurate.

22 posted on 04/29/2008 8:59:57 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: kellynla
Oh please. Even Chertoff had to go through the courts and Congress to get the fence moving.

Anticipating these challenges, Congress gave the department the authority to bypass certain environmental laws and condemn private property. And Chertoff has taken full advantage of that power, waiving 40 laws that had delayed 528 miles of fencing. Some Democrats are challenging Chertoff's use of these waivers, saying the blanket actions are unconstitutional.

The virtual fence was an attempt to go around all the lawsuits that were holding up the completion of the fencing. AND the fence is not just chainlink, there are 9 variations that will be used for building it, including vehicle barriers in certain spots, there has to be surveying done, right-of-way roads cut across private property, supplies moved into place.

I swear some of you people think that someone snaps their fingers and things just happen.

24 posted on 04/29/2008 10:42:50 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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“symbol of the Berlin wall. It is a tool.”

No Chertoff, you are the tool. Gosh can he be serious. A 5 year old could understand the difference between this wall and the Berlin Wall.


30 posted on 04/29/2008 11:13:43 AM PDT by kinghorse
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