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To: ColdSteelTalon; ArizonaJosie; EdArt; Impy; ksen; Government Is Slavery
I get it now... if I am some sort of statist sheep, then you people are all "Conservatives in Name Only."

Comparing Wesley Snipes to the brave revolutionaries is insulting. The people who fought for our separation from England were not fighting taxation. They were fighting taxation without representation. They were angry that they had no say in what taxes they had to pay.

Wesley Snipes is no patriot, he is a criminal. We are a nation of laws, and as much as the law on income taxes stinks, we are expected to pay it until we elect people who will repeal such laws.

I always was led to believe that "conservatives" were all about being law abiding. After all, we constantly rail against liberals who flout the law. Is it OK for us to preach that we are a nation of laws, and that no one is above the law, except when it relates to us and it is something we don't like?

55 posted on 04/29/2008 4:46:41 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: pnh102; ColdSteelTalon; ArizonaJosie; EdArt; Impy; ksen; Government Is Slavery
They were fighting taxation without representation.

In the beginning of the Republic, 20,000 citizens were represented by one representative.

Currently, 600,000+ citizens are represented by one representative.

In the beginning of the Republic, pretty only people who were taxed could vote on taxation.

Currently, the voting pool has been heavily diluted with those who SUBSIST on tax dollars.

Our "representatives" just tried to dilute the voting pool even further with their phony "amnesty".

What in God's name are you talking about when you talk about "taxation with representation"?

59 posted on 04/29/2008 5:01:12 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Spitzer would have used the Mann Act against an enemy in a New York minute.)
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To: pnh102
They were fighting taxation without representation. They were angry that they had no say in what taxes they had to pay.

My Congressman is Luis Gutierrez. My Senators are Dick Durban and BARACK! They do not represent me. Neither do all the "conservatives" who do nothing about taxes. I have no say in any of the government's decisions. Laws that are made by corrupt stupid twits and run contrary to human freedom should not be obeyed. To me being a conservative does not mean blindly obeying the dictates of corrupt statist authority. I didn't compare snipes to the foundering fathers. I doubt he's taking a stand, he just wanted to keep his cash and/or had a bad accountant. What would jailing him do? He can't make any money for them to take when he's locked up.

68 posted on 04/29/2008 5:42:40 AM PDT by Impy (FREE WESLEY SNIPES)
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To: pnh102
I always was led to believe that "conservatives" were all about being law abiding.

If guns were outlawed in your state would you comply?

79 posted on 04/29/2008 6:51:30 AM PDT by jmc813 (Eek!)
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To: pnh102

You asked a question about Prohibition I a bit earlier... then answered the question about taxes with it. The reason Prohibition I is no longer with us is because the law was so widely ignored and flouted by We, the People, that it became UNENFORCEABLE. FedGov had no choice but to repeal it. Pray God that the income tax meets the same fate. That enough people IGNORE AND FLOUT that vile steaming pile of crap that it becomes totally unenforceable. Snipes IS, in fact, a patiot, witting or otherwise, and does NOT deserve to be penalized one bit for doing whatever he could to KEEP WHAT WAS HIS BY RIGHT, the right of having EARNED it.

Only a government slug would feel otherwise. Or a toady!


102 posted on 04/29/2008 3:57:30 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: pnh102

Does being a “Conservative” mean obeying the law blindly?

You did not answer the question- would you obey an unjust law- would you drag 1942 Japanese-Americans into camps knowing what you know today? Would you obey the 1854 Supreme Court’s decision on Slavery.

From a theoretical stand point we should obey the law no matter what it is. But the most of the Founding Fathers do not side with your view. That is why we have the Bill of Rights, as they understood the corruptive aspects of Governments. Jefferson believe we should have a new Revolution every so often.

In addition the 16th Amendment has much doubt surrounding it.
The Founders were against the Income Tax.


103 posted on 04/29/2008 5:33:49 PM PDT by EdArt (free to be)
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To: pnh102
They were angry that they had no say in what taxes they had to pay.

I dont think you understand. I am tired of paying taxes to put other peoples kids in school etc. etc. I already lost my say in anything the moment I was born. Now I see only two choices continue to pay taxes, Or fight against the system. Voting does nothing. Our government simply needs to be shut down it is corrupt and not worth supporting. The globalist/socialists that are running it, are running it into the ground. And you, your children and their grandchildren will sink further into slavery. That is the future.

I think its time for radical steps to be taken before the jack booted thugs of the new world order beat down our doors to take our guns and our lives. Keep in mind that founders were breaking the law to resist the Britsh Empire they were criminals but they risked everything for freedom.

You on the otherhand are so afraid of losing your 2.1 kids your house and car with the fake wood on the side that you would sell your own childrens future under pretty words like "we must obey the law" we must comply. The founders would not know you. They were rebels that dragged loyalists out to be hung on a tree outside of their homes. Or tarred and feathered. Your just another loyalist.

The best word I have to describe what I feel about people who think like you is "contempt".

104 posted on 04/29/2008 6:43:45 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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