Posted on 04/28/2008 12:01:40 PM PDT by Delacon
So whats going on here with this stupid Expelled movie? No, I havent seen the dang thing. Ive been reading about it steadily for weeks now though, both pro (including the pieces by David Klinghoffer and Dave Berg on National Review Online) and con, and I cant believe it would yield up many surprises on an actual viewing. Its pretty plain that the thing is creationist porn, propaganda for ignorance and obscurantism. How could a guy like this do a thing like that?
I turned over some possibilities, but decisively rejected them all. The first thing that came to mind was Saudi money. Half of the evils and absurdities in our society seem to have a Saudi prince behind them somewhere, and the Wahhabists are, like all fundamentalist Muslims, committed creationists. This doesnt hold water, though. For one thing, Stein is Jewish. For another, he is rich, and doesnt need the money. And for another, the stills and clips I have seen are from a low-budget production. Saudi financing would surely at least have come up with some decent computer graphics. No, Ben Stein is no crook. He must then be foolish; and thats sad, because I now think less of a guy I once admired, and whom my friends admire. Life, its just one darn bubble bursting after another.
To return to the matter of computer graphics for a moment, it seems that the producers of Expelled, rather than go to the trouble and expense of making their own, may have just stolen some. (The creationists have posted a defense here. There will probably be a lawsuit under way, which I shall report back on. Oh, and as I write this, I see a Reuters report that our defenders of faith and morality may have stolen some music too. How many more shoes will drop, I wonder?) It is at any rate clear that they engaged in much deception with the subjects they interviewed for the movie, many of whom are complaining loudly. This, together with much, much else about the movie, can be read about on the Expelled Exposed website put up by the National Center for Science Education, which I urge all interested readers to explore.
These dishonesties do not surprise me. When talking about the creationists to people who dont follow these controversies closely, I have found that the hardest thing to get across is the shifty, low-cunning aspect of the whole modern creationist enterprise. Individual creationists can be very nice people, though they get nicer the further away they are from the full-time core enterprise of modern creationism at the Discovery Institute. The enterprise as a whole, however, really doesnt smell good. You notice this when youre around it a lot. I shall give some more examples in a minute; but what accounts for all this dishonesty and misrepresentation?
My own theory is that the creationists have been morally corrupted by the constant effort of pretending not to be what they are. What they are, as is amply documented, is a pressure group for religious teaching in public schools.
Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We are a nation of pressure groups, and one more would hardly notice. However, since parents who want their kids religiously educated already have plenty of private and parochial schools to choose from (half the kids on my street have attended parochial school), as well as the option of home schooling, now very well organized and supported (and heartily approved of by me: I just wish I knew how they find the time); and since current jurisprudence, how correctly I am not competent to say, regards tax-funded religious instruction as unconstitutional; creationists are a pressure group without hope, if they campaign openly for the thing they want.
Understanding this, the creationists took the morally fatal decision to campaign clandestinely. They overhauled creationism as intelligent design, roped in a handful of eccentric non-Christian cranks keen for a well-funded vehicle to help them push their own flat-earth theories, and set about presenting themselves to the public as alternative science" engaged in a controversy with a closed-minded, reactionary science establishment fearful of new ideas. (Ignoring the fact that without a constant supply of new ideas, there would be nothing for scientists to do.) Nothing to do with religion at all!
I think this willful act of deception has corrupted creationism irredeemably. The old Biblical creationists were, in my opinion, wrong-headed, but they were mostly honest people. The intelligent design crowd lean more in the other direction. Hence the dishonesty and sheer nastiness, even down to plain bad manners, that you keep encountering in ID circles. Its by no means all of them, but its enough to corrupt and poison the creationist enterprise, which might otherwise have added something worthwhile to our national life, if only by way of entertainment value.
This dishonesty showed up very soon after the creationists decided to don the mask of alternative science in the 1990s. A key episode was the Kunming conference of June 1999. In very brief you can read the full story in Forrest and Grosss Creationisms Trojan Horse (A bad book, a very bad book, shuddered the Discovery Institutes Bruce Chapman when he saw it on my desk, like a vampire spotting a clove of garlic), pp.56-66 there is a very interesting bed of extremely old fossils near Kunming, in southern China. Paul Chien, a little-known creationist of Chinese ancestry from San Francisco, acted as a front man for the Discovery Institute to organize a conference in Kunming, bringing in professional paleontologists from China and abroad, but without telling them of the Discovery Institutes involvement. The aim was to produce and then to promote a book containing the conference papers of [creationist] members immediately juxtaposed to those written by respected scientists in the relevant fields. (Forrest & Gross, their italics.) When the real paleontologists found out what was going on, and how they had been brought across China, or around the world, they were not pleased. Embarrassing scenes followed. No book ever appeared.
Examples can be multiplied. The witty and mild-mannered federal Judge Jones, who presided over the 2005 Kitzmiller trial in Dover, Pa., felt moved to note that: The citizens of the Dover area were poorly served by the members of the Board who voted for the ID Policy. It is ironic that several of these individuals, who so staunchly and proudly touted their religious convictions in public, would time and again lie to cover their tracks and disguise the real purpose behind the ID Policy. The response of the Discovery Institute was to launch sneering, slanderous attacks on the professionalism and competence of Judge Jones (a church-going conservative Republican appointed by President George W. Bush).
So it goes with the stalwart defenders of truth and morality over at the Discovery Institute. So it goes with Ben Stein, apparently, since he has signed up with these mountebanks, for reasons that remain mysterious to me. The misrepresentations in Expelled are far too numerous for me to list here, and the task is unnecessary since others have done it. The aforementioned Expelled Exposed website is a great resource. Biologist P. Z. Myers, in a less organized way, has been pointing up the errors and deceptions in Expelled since the wretched thing hove into view. (Here he links to a whole stack of reviews, including a couple of positives.) Other science-literate bloggers have been weighing in, often very angrily. One of my favorite comments came from Pixy Misa (Andrew Mazels) who correctly called Ben Stein's accusing Darwin of responsibility for the Holocaust a blood libel on science.
I would actually go further than that, to something like a blood libel on Western Civilization. One of the most-quoted remarks by one conservative writer about another was Evelyn Waugh's on Kipling. It bears quoting again.
[Kipling] was a conservative in the sense that he believed civilization to be something laboriously achieved which was only precariously defended. He wanted to see the defences fully manned and he hated the liberals because he thought them gullible and feeble, believing in the easy perfectibility of man and ready to abandon the work of centuries for sentimental qualms.
Western civilization has many glories. There are the legacies of the ancients, in literature and thought. There are the late-medieval cathedrals, those huge miracles of stone, statuary, and spiritual devotion. There is painting, music, the orderly cityscapes of Renaissance Italy, the peaceful, self-governed townships of old New England and the Frontier, the steel marvels of the early industrial revolution, our parliaments and courts of law, our great universities with their spirit of restless inquiry.
And there is science, perhaps the greatest of all our achievements, because nowhere else on earth did it appear. China, India, the Muslim world, all had fine cities and systems of law, architecture and painting, poetry and prose, religion and philosophy. None of them ever accomplished what began in northwest Europe in the later 17th century, though: a scientific revolution. Thoughtful men and women came together in learned societies to compare notes on their observations of the natural world, to test their ideas in experiments, and in reasoned argument against the ideas of others, and to publish their results in learned journals. A body of common knowledge gradually accumulated. Patterns were observed, laws discerned and stated.
If I write with more feeling than usual here it is because I have just shipped off a review to an editor (for another magazine) of Gino Segrès new book about the history of quantum mechanics. Its a good, if not very remarkable, book giving pen-portraits of the great players in physics during the 1920s and 1930s, and of their meetings and disagreements. Segrè, a particle physicist himself, who has been around for a while, knew some of these people personally, and of course heard many anecdotes from their intellectual descendants. It's a warm book, full of feeling for the scientists and their magnificent enterprise, struggling with some of the most difficult problems the human intellect has ever confronted, striving with all their powers to understand what can barely be understood.
Gino Segrès book and, of course, hundreds like it (I have, ahem, dabbled myself) brings to us a feeling for what the scientific endeavor is like, and how painfully its triumphs are won, with what sweat and tears. Our scientific theories are the crowning adornments of our civilization, towering monuments of intellectual effort, built from untold millions of hours of observation, measurement, classification, discussion, and deliberation. This is quite apart from their wonderful utility from the light, heat, and mobility they give us, the drugs and the gadgets and the media. (A thank you wouldnt go amiss.) Simply as intellectual constructs, our well-established scientific theories are awe-inspiring.
And now here is Ben Stein, sneering and scoffing at Darwin, a man who spent decades observing and pondering the natural world that world Stein glimpses through the window of his automobile now and then, when hes not chattering into his cell phone. Stein claims to be doing it in the name of an alternative theory of the origin of species: Yet no such alternative theory has ever been presented, nor is one presented in the movie, nor even hinted at. There is only a gaggle of fools and fraudsters, gaping and pointing like Apaches on seeing their first locomotive: Look! It moves! There must be a ghost inside making it move!
The intelligent design hoax is not merely non-science, nor even merely anti-science; it is anti-civilization. It is an appeal to barbarism, to the sensibilities of those Apaches, made by people who lack the imaginative power to know the horrors of true barbarism. (A thing that cannot be said of Darwin. See Chapter X of Voyage of the Beagle.)
And yes: When our greatest achievements are blamed for our greatest moral failures, that is a blood libel against Western civilization itself. What next, Ben? Johann Sebastian Bach ran a slave-trading enterprise on the side? Kepler started the Thirty Years War? Tolstoy instigated the Kishinev Pogrom? Dante was a bag-man for the Golden Horde? Why not go smash a few windows in Chartres Cathedral, Ben? Break wind in a chamber-music concert? Splash some red paint around in the Uffizi? Which other of our civilizational achievements would you like to sneer at? What else from what Waugh called the work of centuries would you like to abandon for sentimental qualms? You call yourself a conservative? Feugh!
For shame, Ben Stein, for shame. Stand up for your civilization, man! and all its glories. The barbarians are at the gate, as they always have been. Come man the defenses with us, leaving the liars and fools to their lies and folly.
The Funding Fathers also had slaves!
We really have become an "entitlement society".
By securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.
(The makers of "Expelled" should have read Art. I, Sec. 8, Cl. 8!)
Go look at your own post which drew my remark.
I accurately paraphrased it. It was an invalid and circular argument.
If pointing that flaw out makes me arrogant, I’ll consider that, but you said that criticism of Stein proves his point.
That is circular. It means he’s immune to criticism because he’s right even if he is wrong. Obviously, that is what you’d prefer, but it doesn’t make it true.
In fact, it merely makes it impossible to argue effectively with someone who thinks like you apparently do.
I think we agree on far more than we disagree btw.
I think we do, too, and I have no problem with people who believe in ID, or Special Creation.
Really my only objection to ID is that some advocates of it want to say that it IS science and should be taught as valid science.
But it's not science. That doesn't even mean it's wrong. It might be 100% right. But science doesn't permit a conclusion without testable evidence, and ID probably can never provide that. Science only deals in the natural world. It can't jump in with supernatural explanations because those can't be tested or recreated by peers.
Science has an explanation for why trees sprout new leaves in the Spring. But the real explanation is that there are tree fairies who wave their magic wands. That's ridiculous, of course, but made only to illustrate the point that once science accepts a supernatural explanation, it's no longer science at all. You might as well not even bother.
If ID can start being a science instead of claiming that is science, then the discussion should be fascinating.
It surely is as a reasonable hypothesis as Reverend Wright's assertion that the government created AIDS to destroy the blacks in America.
Why don’t you just explain it in your own words?
Speaking of dishonesty,
Why is it called the "National Center for Science Education" and not the "National Center for Darwinian Education"?
How much of their time is spent promoting the vast areas of science that have nothing to do with Darwin? None.
Hitler identified as a Christian only when it suited his political means, just as the atheist Stalin during WWII proclaimed himself "Protector of the Church" even as he worked to destroy it.
The facts are that Hitler soon after taking power, began to undercut Christianity and hoped to distort it to his own ends. He outlawed religious education for youth and banned crucifixes and spoke openly of preserving the outward traditions of Christianity while corrupting Christianity from the inside out.
He repeatedly evoked Darwin and natural selection in his racial schemes and to suggest otherwise is simply being historically ignorant.
Obviously Darwin doesn't equal Hitler....but Darwin certainly makes room for Hitler.
Have you been to any college classes lately?
Well, if evolution is considered science by scientists, which it is, it would be hard to see how scientists would think that name is dishonest.
What has the “Discovery Institute” discovered? I mean they must have at least ONE to not be dishonestly named.
As did the printing press, the invention of gunpowder, the internal combustion engine, etc.
This is the flimiest of arguments imaginable.
Taking a preceding body of science and linking it to a hateful ideology is an utter smear attempt.
I'll ask again. If evolution led to Nazi Germany, and it's even more widely-accepted today, why do not Nazis rule the world? They don't, and cute answers ducking the question won't count.
What has the Discovery Institute discovered? I mean they must have at least ONE to not be dishonestly named.
For one, that it is unlikely that life in its complexity could not have arisen in so short a time frame as a billion years through randomness. Read Behe's new book, the Edge of Evolution.
>>Especially in the matter of religion: for the populist, religion is a purely emotional phenomenon<<
Who are these “populists” for which you claim “religion is a purely emotional phenomenon?” Is this a variation on Obama’s “they cling to guns and religion?”
How much time do fundamentalists spend attacking those other areas of science?
If you don't understand "does not equal" I don't know how I can help you. I didn't say that it automatically follows. I thought I made that clear. What I will say is that Darwinian evolution cannot be intellectually reconciled with the concept "...All men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights."
Well, they spend a little time attacking global warming, but your question demonstrates that they are not opposed to science, just of All-encompassing Darwinian evolution.
Well, they spend a little time attacking global warming, but your question demonstrates that they are not opposed to science, just of All-encompassing Darwinian evolution.
Not so. My question suggests that the entire fundamentalist attack is religiously, not scientifically, motivated. And it also suggests that science is entitled to defend itself. Do you have a problem with that?
>>I believe Stein’s premise was the lack “free speech” in the science classroom.<<
That seems to be at least one of the major themes of the movie from what I have heard, but I thought one of the messages of the commercial, at least, was to challenge those scientists and academics who think of life as no more than a certain arrangement of matter. That’s just my subjective take.
I believe that science is one of the glories of Western civilization. I am grateful to it for its many useful results. I want scientists to continue their work, as long as they don’t harm living things. I don’t want religious dogma to substitute for science, even if I believe that dogma.
What I find disturbing is the arrogance of some scientists and their ideological allies who pretend that they really understand life.
Can you point to a Hitler quote mentioning Darwin?
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