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Group wants to make Eastern Oregon its own state
Associated Press ^ | 4/26/2008

Posted on 04/27/2008 11:53:58 AM PDT by kingattax

PENDLETON, Ore. (AP) — A small group of people from Hood River are interesting in making Eastern Oregon its own state.

Consultant Paul Koch, 69, his partner Ernie DeRocher and DeRocher's wife, Rita Swyers, both 82, are pushing the effort. Koch said people in Eastern Oregon are fed up with how Salem has treated them.

If they got their wish, the stateline would stretch from east of the Cascade Mountains to the Idaho border.

Koch has done consulting and strategic planning work for Milton-Freewater, Baker City, the Umatilla County Special Library District and Blue Mountain Community College.

He said during his travels around Eastern Oregon in recent years, he and his partner heard a steady theme of how the western part of the state gets all the benefits.

"We started asking people, 'Gee, why don't we start our own state?'" Koch said.

Some people dismissed the notion, Koch said, but others were all for it.

Koch has developed idea papers and an action plan on creating the new state, and he, DeRocher and Swyers created a list of about 140 people to contact about the idea.

They say some people laughed it off at first, but their tunes changed when they heard they were serious enough to hold public meetings about adding a new star to the U.S. flag. Then, Koch said, people wanted to attend.

The first meeting is being held soon and the group will give an overview of the reasons why Eastern Oregon should be a separate state, discuss how it might operate and consider what the risks could be.

The U.S. Constitution allows for the creation of a new state from an exiting state with the approval of the state Legislature and the U.S. Congress.

Although Koch has done quite a lot of work on this idea, he admits he doesn't have all of the answers, particularly when it comes to the economy and funding for a new state.

"I honestly don't have a clue," he said. "However, in talking to people about this, we're thinking about using some new techniques, new approaches ... and having a very small, centralized state government and relying on cities and counties to deliver most of the services."

He also said he doesn't know which city would serve as the capital.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oregon
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1 posted on 04/27/2008 11:53:58 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Did they get the best part in there ~ trade Western Oregon to Canada for Alberta?


2 posted on 04/27/2008 12:03:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kingattax

Sounds like a great idea for Illinos; South Illinois being everything outside of Chicago.


3 posted on 04/27/2008 12:06:48 PM PDT by taraytarah (This Virtual Tagline is a soon-to-be-scrapped $20 million prototype.)
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To: muawiyah

Actually western Oregon’s not so bad. We would be in great shape if we could just find some way to give Portland and its suburbs to Washington. Once we did that the rest of the state (with the exception of Eugene) would be conservative. And we could easily beat Eugene. The problem is that Portland controls Oregon politics in the same way the New York City and Chicago control New York State and illinois respectively.


4 posted on 04/27/2008 12:09:46 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: kingattax

They have been talking that way about CA for years.


5 posted on 04/27/2008 12:11:16 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: taraytarah
Sounds like a great idea for Illinos . . .

But then who will pay for Mayor Daley's expensive park building habit?
Millennium Parks don't just build themselves, you know.

6 posted on 04/27/2008 12:13:26 PM PDT by Mrs_Stokke (Exxon's profit margin -- 10-percent. Coca-Cola's is 20.7-percent, Microsoft -- 27.5-percent.)
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To: kingattax
He also said he doesn't know which city would serve as the capital.

There's a loser right there. The whole idea is to separate yourself from the Democrat parasite nests.

7 posted on 04/27/2008 12:13:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dschapin

...except that Seattle already screws it up for the rest of us in PRWA


8 posted on 04/27/2008 12:18:36 PM PDT by castlebrew (true gun control is hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: taraytarah

chicago ? the sanctuary city ?


9 posted on 04/27/2008 12:24:43 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: kingattax; Salvation; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; ...
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10 posted on 04/27/2008 12:25:17 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: kingattax

Isn’t that called Idaho?


11 posted on 04/27/2008 12:28:19 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: kingattax

What would make even more sense would be to combine Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington into a single state extending from California to Canada.


12 posted on 04/27/2008 12:32:28 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Mrs_Stokke

Guess he needs to learn some Espanol, so he can communicate that need to his new guests.


13 posted on 04/27/2008 12:33:41 PM PDT by taraytarah (This Virtual Tagline is a soon-to-be-scrapped $20 million prototype.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

actually, thats not a bad idea


14 posted on 04/27/2008 12:34:04 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: kingattax
When exactly did the Powers That Be decide there will be no more subdivision of states? It was, of course, the norm well into the 19th Century, and in fact a couple of leftover areas deemed territories were granted statehood in the early 20th Century. But now, proposals to break off areas of existing states to form new ones are met with snorts of derision.

If I recall correctly, some years ago there was a movement some years ago to create a new state composed of eastern Oregon and eastern Washington. Like other such proposals (at least recent ones), it went nowhere.

Maybe we should reverse the process, and return newer states to their previous owners. Tennessee, for example, was once part of North Carolina. In fact, early Royal charters proclaimed that Carolina (prior to its division into Upper Carolina and Baja Carolina) extended to "the South Seas," otherwise known as the Pacific Ocean.

15 posted on 04/27/2008 12:34:08 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (May contain traces of tree nuts.)
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To: dschapin
(with the exception of Eugene and Ashland)
16 posted on 04/27/2008 12:38:13 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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To: kingattax

Easterners in WA State been trying to split WA in two states for decades but to no avail. Split the state from north to south along the Cascade Mtn range. Eastern Washingtonians are sick and tired of the west side dominating politics with its liberal leftist demoncRAT bent. Politicians in Olympia, another liberal leftists demoncRAT city, refused repeatedly.


17 posted on 04/27/2008 12:41:28 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: kingattax

Exactamente - The gang-ridden city that makes the otherwise red state blue.


18 posted on 04/27/2008 12:44:28 PM PDT by taraytarah (This Virtual Tagline is a soon-to-be-scrapped $20 million prototype.)
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To: dschapin
Hey, what needs to be done is for the eastern portion of Oregon, and the eastern portion of Washington, to become a state. The east side of the state of Washington goes thru this "we should be our own state" fairly often, especially after elections.

A familiar strain of "everything goes to Seattle" when it comes to tax dollars.

19 posted on 04/27/2008 12:47:25 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz

You have a good point. My problem with letting Eastern Oregon go is rather selfish. I grew up in a rural portion of Western Oregon just north of Salem. So, I would like to get rid of some of the liberal parts of Oregon (Mainly Portland - I think we could keep Eugene and Ashland because we could outvote them). I don’t want to give up the conservative parts of Oregon, however, because that would leave my family (we have a family farm which goes back four generations so it would be tough to move)stuck in the newly created and even more liberal state of Western Oregon which would be even more dominated by Portland.


20 posted on 04/27/2008 12:54:35 PM PDT by dschapin
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