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We're not out of touch, damnit! No matter what John McCain thinks of conservatives or the North Carolina Republican Party. We put out whatever we want since, by McCain's lights, we're as maverick as him. We owe him no obligation to remain on the reservation.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 04/25/2008 3:28:21 PM PDT by goldstategop
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How anybody in their right mind can support a socialist like McCain who goes after his own party while essentially defending a socialist from the socialist Democrat party is astounding.
2 posted on 04/25/2008 3:31:53 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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This is what so bleedin’ annoying about McCain. He just blindly accepted the premise put to him by the Failed Media. Never once even thought to crame the lie back in the face of the DNC stoodge pretending to be a “Journalist”.

THERE IS NOTHING AT ALL WRONG with the Ad Senator. Grow a spine! Quit kissing the Drive Bys butt!


3 posted on 04/25/2008 3:32:43 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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It is foolish to run anti-Obama ads in a PRIMARY. It won’t help the Republicans, it will help Hillary. I think Rush’s narcicissm as developed into full blown megalomania. He wants so bad for Operation Chaos to be successful that he doesn’t care if Hillary gets elected. Make no mistake, if Hillary were to win NC, she would be the nominee and we will have a Clinton/Obama ticket to compete against.


4 posted on 04/25/2008 3:35:52 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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John McCain does not understand the Republican Party. He is out of touch.


5 posted on 04/25/2008 3:36:22 PM PDT by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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McCain is an embarrassment. He gives me the creeps.

Lets see, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush, Dole, Bush junior, no I’d have to say I have never been embarrassed of my party’s candidate. I haven’t always been thrilled about the guy at the top, but I’ve never been embarrassed when I went to pull the lever at the polls.

This is going to be a first.


6 posted on 04/25/2008 3:39:24 PM PDT by marron
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If Senator McCain is campaigning not as a Republican or conservative, but as a "maverick" and "independent," with license to criticize his own party so as to impress Democrats and the media; then why shouldn't we behave the same way?

Why not indeed.

7 posted on 04/25/2008 3:41:27 PM PDT by TADSLOS ( McCain-Feingold: "Good for thee but not for me"- John McCain)
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John McCain, listen up! You are *not* the Republican Nominee anymore. You’ve been stripped of that mantle. You are the nobody maverick libperv kissass nominee..Get used to carrying your own damn luggage again, you betraying sniveler.


8 posted on 04/25/2008 3:43:07 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Tin eared zeroes and Hollypukes comin...)
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McCain is thoroughly convinced we can be frightened into voting for him. He really is.
11 posted on 04/25/2008 3:49:06 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Don't trust anyone who can't take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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Has he ever said the Democrat Party is "dead wrong"?

Hyenas never devour their own kind.

16 posted on 04/25/2008 3:58:54 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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A maverick is much more like a donkey than an elephant. If McCain put his glasses on he might be surprised to see a donky staring back in the mirror.


17 posted on 04/25/2008 4:04:31 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Obama pledges to give every typical small town white family a possum sandwich)
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Rush Limbaugh finds something on each program to criticize Senator McCain. It seldom fails. Today, it was a rather innocuous request by McCain not to run a TV spot focusing on Reverend Wright.

For this Limbaugh and his audience immediately launched into claims that Senator McCain was trying to determine what Republicans should or should not say. Actually, it is far easier to turn that around and see that what Rush wants is the ability and power to determine who is and who is not a conservative.

It seems tacky, tawdry or a trifle over the edge to keep playing Wright's comments over and over again. Actually, he is not running for anything. I know, I know Senator Obama was in his church for 20 years and recently gave the church 26k. So. The church's stated theology is "black liberation theology" which, is as they interpret it, a combination of Marxism and black affirmation. Off the wall in my estimation, but 8,000 parishioners disagree with my take. So. We do have freedom of religion. There is very little anyone can do or say to dissuade them from their views.

Pastor Wright is an easy shot. Doesn't take much to show him as over the top and irrationally paranoid about "rich, white people." So. When does the endless replays designed no longer to inform but to inflame political passions stop?

Rush and many on this thread love the discharge of anger and righteous scorn on real and imagined adversaries. It gives a sense of cleansing and requires little or no reason or thinking to achieve this. But this does not define conservatism, it is not Burkean, it is not Kirkean but rather it is Nietzschean will to power based on a narrow set of precepts not universally shared.

Finally, remember, the genius of America has been to compromise. The Constitution depended on it. Subsequent events have proved its usefulness and the only time we failed to compromise we got the civil war and 700,000 died.

Contrary to what Rush seems to say and what some on these threads seem to say our success as a nation and as a people is based on how we are alike rather than how we are different. If you want someone or some view to hate switch to the weather. Where I am writing from right now the temperature is 30 and there are 4 inches of recent, heavy wet snow.

22 posted on 04/25/2008 4:15:47 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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A couple of things — One, notice how swiftly the left used his conciliatory remarks against him! Is he paying any attention to that at all? lol Second, the North Carolina republicans are doing the work he should be doing! They are reminding voters that ‘birds of a feather flock together!’ Barrack Obama has many associates in the hate-America left, but does he have even one supporter in the pro-America, patriot ranks? Is so, who?


27 posted on 04/25/2008 4:33:01 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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"We're all mavericks now"----I love it! How's McLame like that feisty independence shtick when the shoe's on the other foot? I wish he'd quit trying to align himself with President Reagan. President Reagan was about many things (many which McCain opposes), and party unity and discipline and loyalty were some of them. President Reagan knew that he had to court the voters, within the parameters of the republican platform, not the other way around. McCain acts as though he's weighing us in the balance.He forgets-he's running, we're deciding whether he deserves our Republican votes or not. This coronation by the GOP party on high has confused him.
29 posted on 04/25/2008 4:38:03 PM PDT by mrsmel
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This was a VERY FOOLISH thing to say about North Carolina Republicans, who pay close attention to politics, are used to being in a minority, and dig in their heels when insulted.


40 posted on 04/25/2008 5:10:17 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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Don’t see this as a bug, but as a feature.

Conservatives throughout the Republican party can now punish the Democrats, call them out, and not let them pretend away their hypocrisy and hatred anymore, for fear of embarrassing our candidate.

What will McCain do? He is only the Republican contender by default. And he will win the election only because his opponents are so utterly loathsome that Republicans would vote for a pumpkin just to keep them out of office.

Other than keeping those two Moonbats out, our only hope is if McCain picks a conservative VP. If he picks another RINO liberal, he may be president, but none of us will owe him anything.

Loyalty is a two way street. He gives us none, so he gets none in return. But the *important* thing is that we can take the kid gloves off with the Democrats.

Hillary’s a radical socialist fanatic. Obama can’t be trusted to do anything on behalf of America, only for some undeserving special interests and America’s enemies.


42 posted on 04/25/2008 5:13:03 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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His own party, apparently, poses the greatest obstacle to Senator McCain.

Meanwhile, McCain poses the greatest danger to the Republican party.

I predict this election will have the lowest voter turnout of Democrats and Republicans in history. If McCain wins, it will be because enough Democrats voted for him -- Democrats who are more afraid of what Obama or Hillary would do to the nation than what McCain would do. The problem is McCain would be perhaps marginally better than Obama or Hillary in the short run, but infinitely worse for the Republican party, Conservatism, and hence the United States, in the long run.

McCain may be (God forbid) the first Republican president nominated and elected by Democrats.

43 posted on 04/25/2008 5:18:34 PM PDT by Finny (Democrats do Mommy Government. Today's Republicans do Daddy Government. Conservatives do Freedom.)
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He is bitter.


47 posted on 04/25/2008 5:33:34 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (BO stinks................)
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