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1 posted on 04/24/2008 2:19:35 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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Just like we did with the Japanese. We should drop a couple of our biggest bombs on the middle east and bring them to there knees and knock some sense into them.


2 posted on 04/24/2008 2:25:44 AM PDT by rambo316 (It is time to Nukem)
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To: Mount Athos
libs will say:
"we deserve it for attacking a country that meant us no harm."
3 posted on 04/24/2008 2:59:46 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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This policy may already have cost American lives. In at least one instance, U.S. officials labored for nearly ten hours to get legal approval necessary to conduct wiretaps to help them locate three American soldiers kidnapped by al-Qaeda combatants in Iraq. The soldiers were not successfully rescued. “We are extending Fourth Amendment (constitutional) rights to a terrorist foreigner . . . who’s captured a U.S. soldier,” Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell complained to a congressional committee during a legislative battle over this same issue last year. Also in the mix: Trial lawyers are suing telecommunications companies that cooperated with intelligence officials immediately after 9/11, allowing them to “mine” data for patterns of terrorist activity. If the trial lawyers — the biggest donors to Democrats — succeed, they will reap billions of dollars. They also will teach the private sector never again to assist government efforts to identify terrorists. The Senate bill would protect the telecoms from these laws suits.


4 posted on 04/24/2008 3:14:23 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, weÂ’re still retarded.)
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Gingrich sits with her on a couch in a bizarre black and white ad, saying (paraphrased) “We don’t agree on a lot of things, but we agree we have to do something about climate change.” Isn’t it something like Carter going to talk with Hamas?


6 posted on 04/24/2008 3:26:28 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Mount Athos
Future Green Glass Zone of the World.


11 posted on 04/24/2008 3:43:10 AM PDT by Leisler
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Just wait until Obama loses the election.


15 posted on 04/24/2008 5:06:04 AM PDT by RouxStir (No Peeing Allowed in the Gene Pool.)
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When this awful event happens how will we respond? Will a President Obama negotiate a surrender? Will a President Hillary bomb the Middle East? What will the American people do and expect their government to do?

The American people would after such an overt attack likely expect the perpetrators and any and all who supported them to be punished severely. I would expect mosques to be burned and calls for the rounding up and internment of Middle Eastern nationals. A perceived weak and ineffective President would be forced to resign. The pacifists and anti-war types in Congress would have a lot of explaining to do. However, the American people will do what they have always done in the face of tragedy ...come together and pick up the pieces.

18 posted on 04/24/2008 7:20:18 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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BTTT!


20 posted on 04/24/2008 12:07:57 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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There will be nuke terrorism, but the threat of a nuke blast in the US is extremely remote—not for lack of trying or tough security, but the technology actually doesn’t exist. There are numerous studies that disprove the hollywood notion of a “suitcase bomb”—the smallest any fissable weapon can be would require several foot lockers of equipment and shielding. The would-be terrorists have a much much higher likelihood of dying from radiation exposure in the time it would take to put one together. Then they’d have to create a trigger mechanism—no easy task and in some ways, much more difficult to figure out than getting the fissable materials (itself almost impossible). A dirty bomb (less-than critical mass of radioactive materials spread by conventional bomb) is a bigger threat, but again too many variables (wind, timing, radioactive poisoning killing the terrorists before they could trigger the explosion, etc.). Plus, dirty bombs of even substantial size would do minimal death (though arguably it would create much “terror”).

The only terrorist group known to have come close to access to a real nuclear device is Aum Shinrikyo, the ultra-nationalist Japanese cult. There have been persistent rumours that these guys did obtain nukes from former soviet states; it is known that they bribed guys working for Yeltsin to the tune of $100m (US) in order to get such access. These nutjobs went below the radar screen after the Japanese government busted them in response to the Sarin release back in the 90s that affected over 5,000 people (how soon we forget).

The real threat is a nuke delivered to Israel via conventional ballistic missle (e.g., modified SCUD) fired from Iran or by al-Qaeda (or both) either out of Iraq or Iran. As most Israelis know, Israel is a “one bomb” state, meaning that a nuke strike on Tel Aviv would effectively destroy the entire infrastructure of the government (they don’t have anything like FEMA) and would be the end of Israel in a single flash. People who complain about Israeli “fearmongering” of Iran’s nuke program fail to grasp this singular fact; but it’s something Ahmadinejad is very well aware of. This is why Jimmah Carter is such an incredible fool.

Another possibility to be considered is a nuke strike by Iran or terrorists on Mecca. Why? Because the damage to the qabah would be minimal, but by blaming such an attack on the US or Israel, they could ignite WW3. At any rate, I think the terrorist threat of a nuke may be real, but we are much more likely to be nuked in some way by Iran than al-Qaeda. And again, it’s not for lack of trying. Keep in mind, Iran is not so interested in the fate of the Palestinians, of whom they could care less; nor are they really seeking to establish a greater hegemony for its own sake. The radical apocalyptic cult that was established there by Khomeini is interested in triggering nothing less than the end of the world, and Ahmadinejad is on record as believing that he himself is the man who will do this.

When Hitler ranted and raved about his plans in Mein Kampf, it was written off in the west as mere bragadoccio and nearly 40 million people died as a result. We make the same mistake now in thinking al-Qaeda (who might well work with Iran to be the delivery vehicle) or Iran merely want some separate peace or influence for themselves, or more laughable, the right of return for Palestinians (neither al-Qaeda nor Iran gives a damn about the palestinians). When they say they want to burn the world, we best take them at their word.


23 posted on 04/24/2008 12:37:33 PM PDT by Ilya Mourometz
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This policy may already have cost American lives. In at least one instance, U.S. officials labored for nearly ten hours to get legal approval necessary to conduct wiretaps to help them locate three American soldiers kidnapped by al-Qaeda combatants in Iraq. The soldiers were not successfully rescued.

I would not have asked permission for this. I'd have gone ahead and done it and hang the consequences if it saves three American soldiers. Speaking of consequences, the people who blocked this wiretap should be fired from their jobs and escorted out of the office - in Baghdad, preferably.

32 posted on 04/24/2008 1:54:01 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Charlton Heston & Ronald Reagan - my two favorite Presidents.)
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