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Thinking the Unthinkable
National Review ^ | April 24, 2008 | Clifford D. May

Posted on 04/24/2008 2:19:33 AM PDT by Mount Athos

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1 posted on 04/24/2008 2:19:35 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Just like we did with the Japanese. We should drop a couple of our biggest bombs on the middle east and bring them to there knees and knock some sense into them.


2 posted on 04/24/2008 2:25:44 AM PDT by rambo316 (It is time to Nukem)
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To: Mount Athos
libs will say:
"we deserve it for attacking a country that meant us no harm."
3 posted on 04/24/2008 2:59:46 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Mount Athos
This policy may already have cost American lives. In at least one instance, U.S. officials labored for nearly ten hours to get legal approval necessary to conduct wiretaps to help them locate three American soldiers kidnapped by al-Qaeda combatants in Iraq. The soldiers were not successfully rescued. “We are extending Fourth Amendment (constitutional) rights to a terrorist foreigner . . . who’s captured a U.S. soldier,” Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell complained to a congressional committee during a legislative battle over this same issue last year. Also in the mix: Trial lawyers are suing telecommunications companies that cooperated with intelligence officials immediately after 9/11, allowing them to “mine” data for patterns of terrorist activity. If the trial lawyers — the biggest donors to Democrats — succeed, they will reap billions of dollars. They also will teach the private sector never again to assist government efforts to identify terrorists. The Senate bill would protect the telecoms from these laws suits.


4 posted on 04/24/2008 3:14:23 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, weÂ’re still retarded.)
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Nuclear terrorism is a prospect too dreadful to contemplate. So is biological terrorism. One thing that we can 100% rely upon: as soon as an overtly maniac Muslim country gets any significant biological or nuclear capability, one or both of these will happen. Either in Israel or in the US or probably both.

It is risky enough that Pakistan is nuclear: they aren’t quite as whacked as Iran, but pretty close — it wouldn’t take much.

To me, a preemptive strike makes an eminent amount of sense. Select a useful target like Mecca or Tehran and level it, with a warning that more will happen with the very next display of monkeyshines. Then carry out that threat.

It is an ugly thought, the preemptive strike, and it would be politically very difficult to do. Europe, Russia, China — in fact the whole world — would scream blue murder.

What are the alternatives, tho’? Without a preemptive strike, a nuclear/biological terrorist attack is one day certain to happen.


5 posted on 04/24/2008 3:23:42 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Mount Athos

Gingrich sits with her on a couch in a bizarre black and white ad, saying (paraphrased) “We don’t agree on a lot of things, but we agree we have to do something about climate change.” Isn’t it something like Carter going to talk with Hamas?


6 posted on 04/24/2008 3:26:28 AM PDT by gusopol3
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wrong thread?


7 posted on 04/24/2008 3:27:51 AM PDT by palmer
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her= Pelosi, who is the subject of this thread in some degree. Read the article.


8 posted on 04/24/2008 3:32:48 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I suppose the alternative is doing what we’re doing now- trying to shore up our presence in the region and trying to make friends.

I think having our nuclear arsenal in our back pocket is an ever-present instrument of leverage- Iranian leaders may be insane, but they know there’s a line they can cross- with us and Israel.

I think their game is basically a frog-boiling exercise- how long can they advance toward nuclear weapons while allowing the international community to acclimate itself to that fact, without causing a retaliation. They’re walking a narow path, but so far it’s been successful.


9 posted on 04/24/2008 3:36:11 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, weÂ’re still retarded.)
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To: gusopol3

My bad (I have never seen that commercial).


10 posted on 04/24/2008 3:40:47 AM PDT by palmer
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To: Mount Athos
Future Green Glass Zone of the World.


11 posted on 04/24/2008 3:43:10 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: palmer

I hope you won’t lose your breakfast:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154:


12 posted on 04/24/2008 3:46:11 AM PDT by gusopol3
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Thanks. I think. Ugh. Now I know what the ad I saw with Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson (the sound was off). I would like to see a bunch of them sit together and express a common determination to stop nuclear terrorism. Well, I can dream, can’t I?


13 posted on 04/24/2008 3:53:13 AM PDT by palmer
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To: palmer
Now I know what the ad I saw with Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson

these two could make a good ad for Planter's Peanuts.

14 posted on 04/24/2008 4:00:22 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Mount Athos

Just wait until Obama loses the election.


15 posted on 04/24/2008 5:06:04 AM PDT by RouxStir (No Peeing Allowed in the Gene Pool.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Nuclear terrorism is a prospect too dreadful to contemplate. So is biological terrorism.

West Nile Virus.

One thing that we can 100% rely upon: as soon as an overtly maniac Muslim country gets any significant biological or nuclear capability, one or both of these will happen.

We lose a city. After that, it does not matter whether the government has the will to do anything or not, a mosque will be a bad place to be. It took a lot of effort and disinformation to keep the lid on after 9-11

If the Government does have to will to bring Hell to them, so much the better. We finally get out the cockroach spray and end the threat.

16 posted on 04/24/2008 5:38:11 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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libs will say: "we deserve it for attacking a country that meant us no harm."

Living in a liberal pest-hole, I got to see quite a few Liberals become very quiet in September, 2001, and a number of them do a 180° course correction in their attitudes. Often, it did not last all that long.

But if a city is lost, it will be one of those, "I never voted for Richard Nixon" things.

If Manhattan were to go, preaching about "We deserved it" or the "Brotherhood of Man" would take more courage or stupidity than many Liberals could conjure up, as it would be a death-defying act.

The "Monkey-at-the-Wateringhole" displays of the Finsbury Mosque types do not reach the levels of fury some people have about 9-11.

We wait.

17 posted on 04/24/2008 5:48:55 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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When this awful event happens how will we respond? Will a President Obama negotiate a surrender? Will a President Hillary bomb the Middle East? What will the American people do and expect their government to do?

The American people would after such an overt attack likely expect the perpetrators and any and all who supported them to be punished severely. I would expect mosques to be burned and calls for the rounding up and internment of Middle Eastern nationals. A perceived weak and ineffective President would be forced to resign. The pacifists and anti-war types in Congress would have a lot of explaining to do. However, the American people will do what they have always done in the face of tragedy ...come together and pick up the pieces.

18 posted on 04/24/2008 7:20:18 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Gorzaloon
After all these years. I still to this day do not understand why people are either on the left or the right.

My wife says those on the left tend to hate themselves so they tend to accept negatives.


Thomas Jefferson said something of the sort that 'the two types of people are those that trust their fellow citizens and those that do not.'

I don't think Jefferson is that far off but I think my wife is more accurate but I am not sure.

19 posted on 04/24/2008 9:33:23 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Mount Athos

BTTT!


20 posted on 04/24/2008 12:07:57 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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