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To: Elsie
Why does the BIBLE describe what you have written as EVIL?

Simple, it does not...

NIV Galatians 1:6-9
6. I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
7. which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
9. As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
It says nothing there about accurately reporting a vision of God.

When the Bible was written the Trinity was not a doctrine, the Godhead was. An impartial reading of the bible reveals that God and Christ are separate beings who are one in heart might mind and strength. many of the Buddhists I met in Taiwan who had already read the bible, came to this conclusion and rejected "Christian" churches on the basis that they were not following their own Bible.

In short, the change Paul was warning about happened in 325 AD, it was called the changing of the Doctrine of God and Christ to the doctrine of God/Christ, that is the doctrine that is accursed.

You make fun of us, and hey, I can understand that, we make fun of ourselves too. (it's because we are secure) yet you do not understand the point, because you refuse to admit that we have one. and that just makes you look silly.

Yeah yeah, Satan can masquerade as an angel of light, except he does not answer prayers as "God" because God is "answering" and not letting Satan take his place, how do we know that? Simple God promised to answer a prayer of faith, not only that, but (and you had to know I was going to Go here) in First John 4:1-3 it tells us how to know if a messenger is of God or of the Devil:
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Thus, I who have read the Book of Mormon, and asked God according to the promises in the Bible received a witness direct from God that the Bible and the Book of Mormon are both his word, and at the same time that I was receiving a testimony of the Book of Mormon, I received a witness that Jesus Christ is the son of God, that he died fro my sins, and that only through his grace can I possibly be saved.

This exactly and completely is what the Bible promises if an answer is of God.

what do you have?

You have a bunch of carefully edited quotations, you have mis-interpretations that ignore our statements that they are mis-stating our beliefs, you have documents like the salamander letter that are proven forgeries, yet are still prominent on anti Mormon web sites. You have colorful graphics and fonts. You have the company of those who believe that the ends will justify their means, when Christianity would teach you that the means must always justify themselves to God.

You have everything on your side but the truth, and God on your side, therefore you have nothing.

Elsie, I hope and pray the you will develop the faith to actually ask and believe the answer that God will ever place before you, I hope you listen to his voice above the howling of the world's "Wisdom".
294 posted on 05/04/2008 7:43:11 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
8. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
297 posted on 05/05/2008 4:38:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser; greyfoxx39; aMorePerfectUnion; P-Marlowe; Tennessee Nana; colorcountry
You have everything on your side but the truth, and God on your side, therefore you have nothing.
298 posted on 05/05/2008 4:41:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
Good morning, Delphi. Are you a god, yet? Do you believe you will become a god?

Do you believe your tithes will earn you a position? Does your good works get you extra credits?

Let me quote Paul, a converted Jewish scholar...

Rom. 4: 1What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, discovered in this matter? 2If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. 3What does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness."[a]

Rom 9: 4Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. 5However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.

30What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; 31but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. 32Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the "stumbling stone." 33As it is written:

"See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble

and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."

Eph:1As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature[a] and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath. 4But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. 6And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

301 posted on 05/05/2008 5:08:36 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome..." I. Asimov)
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