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Supreme Court says police may search even if arrest invalid
Seattle Post-Intelligencer/AP ^ | 4/23/08 | PETE YOST

Posted on 04/23/2008 10:25:33 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court affirmed Wednesday that police have the power to conduct searches and seize evidence, even when done during an arrest that turns out to have violated state law.

The unanimous decision comes in a case from Portsmouth, Va., where city detectives seized crack cocaine from a motorist after arresting him for a traffic ticket offense.

David Lee Moore was pulled over for driving on a suspended license. The violation is a minor crime in Virginia and calls for police to issue a court summons and let the driver go.

Instead, city detectives arrested Moore and prosecutors say that drugs taken from him in a subsequent search can be used against him as evidence.

"We reaffirm against a novel challenge what we have signaled for half a century," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote.

Scalia said that when officers have probable cause to believe a person has committed a crime in their presence, the Fourth Amendment permits them to make an arrest and to search the suspect in order to safeguard evidence and ensure their own safety.

Moore was convicted on a drug charge and sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison.

The Virginia Supreme Court ruled that police should have released Moore and could not lawfully conduct a search.

State law, said the Virginia Supreme Court, restricted officers to issuing a ticket in exchange for a promise to appear later in court. Virginia courts dismissed the indictment against Moore.

Moore argued that the Fourth Amendment permits a search only following a lawful state arrest.

In a concurring opinion, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she finds more support for Moore's position in previous court cases than the rest of the court does. But she said she agrees that the arrest and search of Moore was constitutional, even though it violated Virginia law.

The Bush administration and attorneys general from 18 states lined up in support of Virginia prosecutors.

The federal government said Moore's case had the potential to greatly increase the class of unconstitutional arrests, resulting in evidence seized during searches being excluded with increasing frequency.

Looking to state laws to provide the basis for searches would introduce uncertainty into the legal system, the 18 states said in court papers.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; banglist; bigbrother; crimecorruption; papersplease; policestate; scotus; warondrugs
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To: mysterio
Imagine that. The failed war on some drugs steals more liberty from Americans.

I've never lost two seconds' sleep over that possibility.

I wonder why that is?

201 posted on 04/24/2008 5:20:27 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961
I've never lost two seconds' sleep over that possibility. I wonder why that is?

Probably because you blindfolded yourself into thinking that the unconstitutional measures used to fight the failed war on some drugs would only be used to catch those dirty drug users. Because we all know that they don't use stuff like that as precedent to go after non drug users.
202 posted on 04/24/2008 5:50:21 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: kiriath_jearim
If it's in this thread anywhere, I didn't see it...

Actual Opinion

203 posted on 04/24/2008 5:52:53 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961

The reason we don’t allow cops to violate right is that even if we prosecute them for that violation they win, they were able to violate your rights. Imagine no right to silence, search and seizure, etc. If all the cops had to do was figure out not to get prosecuted...oh, that’s right, the cops are the government and so are the prosecutors; no prosecution, no foul. See, they could stomp all over you; the prosecutor could refuse to prosecute them and your only recourse is civil court for maybe damages, maybe.


204 posted on 04/24/2008 7:10:10 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: wideawake; L98Fiero
Watching FReepers try to out-think Scalia is like watching a cat try to out-swim a dolphin.
27 posted on Friday, 25 April, 2008 07:44:43 by L98Fiero

205 posted on 04/25/2008 6:02:04 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Publius6961

I had it in my #118, but the second time I cited to it I blew-off adding a link. Sorry.


206 posted on 04/25/2008 6:03:22 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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