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Los Angeles 'is a Third World city'
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 23/04/2008 | Staffer

Posted on 04/22/2008 7:44:40 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick

Los Angeles is becoming a "Third World city" with immigrants making up half its workforce, says a new study.

A third of immigrants have not graduated from high school and 60 per cent do not speak English fluently, the Migration Policy Institute found.

It said this left immigrants ill-equipped to fill California's fastest-growing occupations, such as computer software engineering and nursing. The organisation added that as the so-called baby boomers reach retirement age, a similar pattern will spread across the US.

Ernesto Cortes Jr, of the Industrial Areas Foundation, a think-tank that specialises on social change, claimed Los Angeles was at a crossroads.

"The question is are we going to be a 21st century city with shared prosperity, or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most on near poverty wages?" he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; diversity; firstworld; immigration; losangeles; unitedstates
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To: SoCalPol

Los Angeles is NOT Tijuana, not by a long shot.


21 posted on 04/22/2008 8:39:47 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
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To: JLS

Los Angeles hasn’t devolved to the level of Tijuana yet, but give it time. Rome wasn’t demolished in a day.


22 posted on 04/22/2008 8:40:21 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: JLS

My comments stand.


23 posted on 04/22/2008 8:42:33 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Ajnin; JLS

I lived in LA. It’s a tough town, but it’s got nothing on the third world.

Still, it’s amusing to draw the connection.

There are small towns in the CA Central Valley that are mostly illegal and do appear to be like the third world. Unpaved roads, scrawy dogs, no English to be found, the whole bit.


24 posted on 04/22/2008 8:42:35 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: PotatoHeadMick

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. See also here and here

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower.


25 posted on 04/22/2008 8:43:40 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

L.A. is a Third World city? Sounds like another video/photo-op for giant ego and megalomaniac Mayor Villaraigosa.


26 posted on 04/22/2008 8:47:18 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Hi Dad!)
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To: JLS
LA is a typical US city. It has very nice areas. It has bad areas. It has electricity and running water to all areas. It has paved roads throughout.

My friend, you are completely wrong.

I live in the LA Metropolitan area and it is a third-world city in comparison to all other areas of the state.

Most of the city you would not want to get off the freeway and drive around in.

The freeways themselves have not been updated as LA does not have the money because they spend so much keeping their hospitals afloat and their education system running catering to illegal aliens.

A good proportion of the city has businesses whose signs are written in spanish, they have street vendors everywhere, beggars everywhere, and cock-fighting everywhere, not to mention the 80,000 gang members partially because the city has something called Special Order 40 which does not allow the cops to look into the immigration status of those they arrest.

Your one visit to LA must have been concentrated in some of the nicer area of the city.
27 posted on 04/22/2008 8:48:29 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: SoConPubbie
A proposal to change the LAPD's controversial policy dealing with undocumented immigrants picked up a powerful ally today, the Los Angeles Police Protective League. The union, which represents more than 9,000 LAPD officers, said it is backing a motion introduced last week by Los Angeles Councilman Dennis Zine that would require officers to check on the immigration status of gang members suspected of being undocumented immigrants -- even if they are not under arrest.

That motion would change LAPD's Special Order 40, which restricts officers' ability to inquire about a person's immigration status.


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/04/police-union-vs.html

Sorry you live in a bad area of the city, but JLS is right. I know, because I live here.

28 posted on 04/22/2008 9:03:40 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Sorry you live in a bad area of the city, but JLS is right. I know, because I live here.

So do I, and everyone I know, who is not an Illegal Alien, or used to third-world conditions, feels the same way as I do.
29 posted on 04/22/2008 9:15:10 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: Kozak
Speaking Truth to Power.

I despise that phrase.
I've only heard it used by blatantly obvious liberals.
I first heard it from Anita Hill at St Thomas' confirmation hearings.
I'm curious about its origin and why do you use it here?

30 posted on 04/22/2008 9:19:55 PM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS [with oak leaf clusters])
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To: skeptoid

I use it because the gentleman is correct. Colorado does not need another infusion of illiterate peasants. And I love turning one of the lefts rhetorical weapons upon them.


31 posted on 04/22/2008 9:22:58 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: SoConPubbie

I agree and I’ve been here 22 yrs!


32 posted on 04/22/2008 9:30:36 PM PDT by Never2baCrat
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To: SoConPubbie

I am not an illegal alien nor used to 3rd world conditions, and these are not 3rd world conditions in our city. I was born in this city, AND I have travelled to Mexico. Not all of Mexico is in 3rd world condition either, although the villages and rural areas are.

What we have here is a well-functioning first rate infrastructure. As I said, if you live in slum area, then that may color your view. But L.A., for the most part, is a vital, thriving metropolis.


33 posted on 04/22/2008 9:33:45 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

It is normal for a large city to have both great wealth and poverty. Name one that doesn’t. American cities have never been exceptions to this.

Of course LA does have major problems - crime, pollution, lack of transit, dealing with illegals, homelessness, gangs, etc.


34 posted on 04/22/2008 9:41:51 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: La Enchiladita
I was also born and raised in Southern California. I am 47 years old. I have watched as southern California, especially LA, Santa Ana (and other parts of Orange County), Large parts of Riverside and San Bernardino counties have been turned into virtual slums by the hordes of illegal aliens who refuse to assimilate into our culture.

This all started in the 1980s when the state apparently decided it was not going to do anything about Illegal Aliens. Before then, all the construction jobs were done by Americans and most of the service related jobs were done by American Teens. I know this because I had those jobs.

My observations, my family's observations, my friends observations have all been consistently the same, LA is akin to a third-world country.

You may have not noticed the difference because you grew up with it.

I had the privilege to see how great the state of California was before it was soiled by the Illegal Aliens.

And it is still my hope, however dim, that at some point, this state may return to it's greatness.

It will never attain that greatness, however, without removing those who have willingly and with total disregard violated our laws in terms of both felonies and misdemeanors.

35 posted on 04/22/2008 9:42:59 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

I’ve been to a few third world cities and I’ve been to LA a couple of times, but the last time was 1985.

I bet if I went back, I’d see a lot more to remind me of third cities now than I did in 1985.


36 posted on 04/22/2008 9:42:59 PM PDT by Will88
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To: SoConPubbie

“I had the privilege to see how great the state of California was before it was soiled by the Illegal Aliens.”

California was the Golden State, the place most every American teen felt he or she had to visit while young, at least that’s how it was through about the late seventies.

I don’t hear it referred to as that dreamy place everyone should visit so much anymore.

And, I always heard they had the nations best schools, at least in earlier times.


37 posted on 04/22/2008 9:47:00 PM PDT by Will88
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To: SoConPubbie

I was born before you were. And, isn’t it interesting how none of my native L.A. friends think of this as a 3rd world city. I guess we just run in different circles.

I have seen changes here, of course. I am not blind. I sense a supercilious tone in your posts to me.

Every city on earth has changed over time, especially over the past half century. It is inevitable.


38 posted on 04/22/2008 9:49:55 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Yeah, “first rate infrastructure” that will slowly crumble as the 3rd world masses continue to overtake Los Angeles and all of Southern California. And I’m sorry dear, but I have lived here since the 60’s, and I have seen the overwhelmingly negative impact that latino immigrants have had on this area and it is a huge shame. The finest region of America, ceded to a group that brings little positive value to the table, while helping themselves to illegally secured government largesse.


39 posted on 04/22/2008 9:51:39 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: buck jarret

Transit, for one thing, is improving.... mainly because of the new rail lines. More are being planned, and buses have expanded hours and frequency of service.


40 posted on 04/22/2008 9:53:07 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
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