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INTOLERANCE: Alleged illegal aliens face twisting legal path
Herald bulletin ^ | April 22, 2008 | Shawn McGrath

Posted on 04/22/2008 8:11:46 AM PDT by AuntB

CHICAGO — Diego Hernandez and Anh Phan have never met, but they may share something of a common path.

Both Hernandez, 40, a native of Mexico, and Phan, 27, a Vietnamese national, were held for immigration officials after they were arrested in Madison County, and will attend court hearings in Chicago to resolve their citizenship status.

Anderson police arrested Hernandez this month on suspicion of misdemeanor drunken driving and driving without ever having received a license.

Indiana State Police troopers arrested Phan in September at the Pendleton BMV branch when she allegedly tried to get an Indiana ID card using fraudulent Permanent Resident and Social Security cards.

Hernandez and Phan’s brushes with law enforcement represent how illegal aliens often come into contact with immigration officials. But not all people here illegally — even those who’ve been arrested — appear on U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s radar.

“Unless they’ve been previously deported, they really don’t put a hold on them,” said Andy Williams, Madison County Jail commander. “If it’s a minor offense, they don’t necessarily process them through.”

Hernandez had previously been deported to Mexico, and he’s had previous felony arrests.

Gail Montenegro, a spokeswoman for ICE’s Chicago district, admitted that many illegals fall off the radar even if they’ve come in contact with the criminal justice system, even if they’ve been arrested for petty crimes.

Being an illegal alien is a violation of federal law, Montenegro said, “but like any law enforcement agency, we have to prioritize.

“Our top priority is any illegal alien accused of a violent crime,” Montenegro said. “After that would be habitual criminals, such as numerous drunken driving arrests.”

Immigration officials lack the resources to remove all illegal aliens. There are over 15,000 people working for ICE, with offices around the world. The agency deporteed more 275,000 illegal aliens in fiscal year 2007, according to the agencies annual report, so the agency prioritizes the most serious violators: violent offenders, those convicted of major drug offenses and those who have already been deported.

Another priority is fugitive aliens, or illegal aliens that have gone through the deportation hearing process but absconded before they could be taken into custody. There are currently about 600,000 fugitive aliens in the United States, she said.

Along with Indiana and Illinois, the Chicago office covers Wisconsin, Kentucky, Kansas and Missouri. Most taken into custody in Madison County are transported to Marion County but then processed through an intake facility in Broadview, Ill., near Chicago.

Usually, a hearing before a judge with the Executive Office of Immigration Review, which is under the U.S. Department of Justice umbrella, is then scheduled.

Detainees aren’t appointed a public defender if they can’t afford private counsel to represent them during in the hearing process.But ICE does provide detainees with a list of pro bono immigration attorneys. They’re also given information on how to contact their nation’s consulate office in Chicago, Montenegro said. She said criminal prosecution is possible in some cases, similar to Anh Phan’s case, where the person is alleged to have used phony documents to get an ID, or suspected of committing identity theft.

But it could be a while before an immigration violator is finally deported.

“There are some cases that go on for months or years,” Montenegro said. “ICE does not detain everyone going through the deportation process.”

The individual has due process rights, and many cases are appealed to a higher federal court. In many cases, she said, suspected illegals are allowed to post bond. One hundred percent of the bond must be posted, and they start at $1,500, she said.

Locally, Williams said he doesn’t think many illegal aliens end up in the Madison County jail.

“I don’t know that the number has ever been tracked,” Williams said. “I don’t believe it to be a very high number. It’s not statistically a lot.”The path to being the U.S. legally is varied. Citizens of foreign countries can apply for a legal permenant resident card, better known as a Green Card. Or they can apply for one of the various types of visa, such as student, work or training visa. The length of stay under the visas varies, but many are for six months.

And any charges illegal aliens face locally are resolved — including prison sentences — before ICE officials will take them into custody.

“If they face local charges, we don’t interfere,” Montenegro said. “If you start to deport someone before the criminal process (is completed), in essence, it’s a get out of jail free card.”

As it stands, it’s up to Madison County authorities to notify ICE officials if they determine someone in custody is an illegal alien. But under a new initiative announced in March, ICE will begin the Security Communities plan where they automatically gain information on potential illegal aliens from the nation’s 3,100-some local jails.

ICE plans to send “integration technology” to local law-enforcement agencies to connect them to FBI and Department of Homeland Security databases to check immigration history, according to an ICE press release announcing the initiative. The process would automatically notify ICE officials when an immigration violator has been taken into custody, streamling the process.

Hernandez remained in the Madison County Jail Thursday, waiting picked up by ICE officials.

As for Phan, her mother and stepfather, who live in Fort Wayne, hired Anderson attorney Tom Godfrey to handle her criminal case. She is formally charged with application fraud, a Class D felony, and false government identification, a Class A misdemeanor.

Godfrey said Phan gave money to a friend who claimed to know someone who could obtain legitimate documents. Phan, who has since been released on her own recognizance so she can clear up the immigration issue, believed she had valid documentation, Godfrey said. Her trial is scheduled to start at 9 a.m. today in Madison County Court 2.

Montenegro said Phan’s plight isn’t uncommon.

“We see a lot of cases of where people are duped,” said Montenegro, adding Phan’s immigration hearing hadn’t yet been scheduled. “There are all different types who try to take advantage of this vulnerable segment of our society. They could be crooked attorneys, notary publics, just about anybody.

“It’s a segment of the population that is vulnerable. Many think that if they pay enough money, they’ll be able to legitimize their status, but that isn’t the case.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aliens; courts; crimaliens; immigration; sobstory
"“It’s a segment of the population that is vulnerable. Many think that if they pay enough money, they’ll be able to legitimize their status, but that isn’t the case.”

But, hey, that's the way it's done in the 3rd world...pay to play....forget about that 'rule of law' crappola.

1 posted on 04/22/2008 8:11:47 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

false government identification, a Class A misdemeanor.

So a fake SS# is just a misdeameanor? Heck, think I’ll get me one. It sure would come in handy.


2 posted on 04/22/2008 8:16:27 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

Illegal immigration is a continuing criminal enterprise.

No sympathy here.


3 posted on 04/22/2008 8:18:30 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: o_zarkman44

“Our top priority is any illegal alien accused of a violent crime,” Now that makes sense. Wait till they kill or injure someone.

I am for opening our borders 100% to all comers and am willing do to it as soon as Mexico opens her borders to Guatemala. (NOT! Sarcasm off)


4 posted on 04/22/2008 8:26:34 AM PDT by dvan
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To: sheana

I think the penalty varies by state. Hey, sheana, let’s get us one of those Mexican Matricular cards. They’ll give ‘em to anyone!

Lars Larson got one! Anyone can get one.

Take a look!
http://www.larslarson.com/g/matricula-cards/46.html


5 posted on 04/22/2008 8:28:00 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: AuntB

There are principally three types of crimes in Illinois. The lowest level of violation of law is a petty offense. This type of violation can be punished only by the imposition of a fine. The next level is a misdemeanor. In Illinois these can range from a Class C which carries a maximum of 30 days in jail and a $1500 fine to a Class A with a range of up to 364 days in jail and a $2,500 fine.


6 posted on 04/22/2008 8:33:58 AM PDT by sheana
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To: AuntB

Well with a Matricula Consular card and a fake SS card I would never have to follow the laws again. And if I was ever caught I could then claim I am actually an American citizen and they can’t deport me. Would be well worth the $2500 fine of a class A misdemeanor.


7 posted on 04/22/2008 8:36:14 AM PDT by sheana
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To: AuntB

This is why you don’t deport criminal violators.

It is the same as deporting terrorists.

They are free to continue their activities and even to sneak back in again.

Why should only citizens of America have to face jail time for their crimes?


8 posted on 04/22/2008 8:44:12 AM PDT by weegee (Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
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To: sheana

Just remember this the next time your city tries to crack down on minors with fake IDs.


9 posted on 04/22/2008 8:45:19 AM PDT by weegee (Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
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To: AuntB
“Our top priority is any illegal alien accused of a violent crime,” Montenegro said. “After that would be habitual criminals, such as numerous drunken driving arrests.”

Numerous drunken driving arrests? What, do the Feds want to make sure all the drunken illegals floating about have a decent shot at killing somebody? So as to make their journey to the U.S. a memorable one? How freaking stupid is this?

10 posted on 04/22/2008 8:47:12 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - Stupid is as stupid does)
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To: VeniVidiVici

“How freaking stupid is this? ‘”

Check this one out.

Border Patrol “spot checks” on ferries provoke outrage in San Juan Islands

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004364797_ferrypatrol22m.html


11 posted on 04/22/2008 8:51:16 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: weegee

“This is why you don’t deport criminal violators.

It is the same as deporting terrorists.”

This is why you don’t deport them without border security, for sure!


12 posted on 04/22/2008 8:53:06 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: weegee
If they were deported by Trebuchet this would not be a problem...throw them back over the fence.


13 posted on 04/22/2008 8:59:00 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: AuntB

so if you here legally, and arent breaking the law, how much of a problem are you creating for yourself?

just wondering.


14 posted on 04/22/2008 9:06:41 AM PDT by tm61
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To: AuntB

Priorize by the crimes the illegals commit. If you deport them they won’t have to worry about future crimes to the same extent.


15 posted on 04/22/2008 9:07:42 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Truthism Watch)
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To: AuntB
Gail Montenegro, a spokeswoman for ICE’s Chicago district, admitted that many illegals fall off the radar even if they’ve come in contact with the criminal justice system, even if they’ve been arrested for petty crimes.

Gail, could it be that you are just to damn sorry to do your job?

16 posted on 04/22/2008 9:12:53 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat

YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!! SHE IS A USELEES PERSON.

Gail is good on Spinning though!!


17 posted on 04/22/2008 10:42:24 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: weegee
This is why you don’t deport criminal violators.

Did you see this one from earlier today?

Illegal alien enters pleas on sex crimes (Molests two girls and is set free)

18 posted on 04/22/2008 5:04:35 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: AuntB; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


19 posted on 04/22/2008 10:12:25 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: AuntB
"“It’s a segment of the population that is vulnerable. Many think that if they pay enough money, they’ll be able to legitimize their status, but that isn’t the case.”

But, hey, that's the way it's done in the 3rd world...pay to play....forget about that 'rule of law' crappola.

You nailed that!
I'm so pissed when I hear them call themselves undocumented. Implication being that if only they had "papers". Gotten by hook or by crook. Gotten by scumbag lawyers, then all would be OK. Never mind they are criminals. All that counts is having "Papers" like in the 3rd world shitholes they come from

Our American citenship comes from being born here and our ancestors being born here.
Not from having some "documenttioan" and "papers"

"Sin papeles" = I have no papers

20 posted on 04/23/2008 1:27:25 AM PDT by dennisw (Superior attitude. Superior state of mind ---)
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