Posted on 04/22/2008 4:46:37 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
A coalition of American Muslim groups is demanding that presumptive Republican nominee John McCain stop using the word "Islamic" to describe terrorists. The Washington Times reports Islamic Society of North America's secretary general wants McCain to use something he calls "more acceptable to the Muslim community."
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Hey mooslimbs ... byte me
'Killers of innocent people." or, "Believers in the unholy koran." Best fit: "Scum of the earth."
Well, they surely aren’t Methodists. These whiners should leave well enough alone. You’d think they wouldn’t want to draw attention to the fact that ALL the 9/11 terrorists were Muslim, and those who do videos of beheadings, and those who use their children and retarded women for suicide bombers. That should be just about enough publicity for the rock-worshiping death cult.
Hey, Islamic Society of North America, you are being so Islamic.
What are we supposed to call them? Italians? Geez.
How about "Bloodthirsty Muzzie Pig-****ers"?
OK, how about child raping, anti-civilization, goat-raping, anti-civilization, camel raping, mass-murdering, boy raping, 7th Century followers of the pederast false prophet terrorist curse on human history Mohammed.
Works for me.
Well we take issue with them trying to enslave the free world.
The bumper-sticker industry has a problem with that one.
“The Washington Times reports Islamic Society of North America’s secretary general wants McCain to use something he calls “more acceptable to the Muslim community.””
You’re lucky it’s as tame as “Islamic.” If it were me, you’d be offended on a whole other level.
Ha I love it and the commentary here!
They show up making demands on our systems - education, public facilities, airports, security, housing, special swimming days at public pools (next the beaches no doubt), and language (corrections addressing their personal needs) is the second rung on the ladder and the population and sheeple governments start to follow because who is going to argue with a religious sect right?
Ask the Amish - who have never demanded anything - the devout Hebrews who make their own ways through the maze of other believers - all kinds of minority religious make do within the great nation without whining we have to change our own personal lifestyles.
Get in line people - the strength of this great nation is that we allowed to do ‘our own thing within reason’ and we don’t expect others to change to suit our individual needs
especially when it comes to religious worship.
Yet we are expected - to change our own language?
Get over yourselves and welcome to the real world.
Are there any terrorists who are not Muslim????
‘nuff said!
Brilliant commentary from Hugh Fitzgerald at jihadwatch...here...
“My own take on this is that we tried and failed to stylize this particular onslaught against the United States as one that has religious connotations and regional connotations,” said Mr. Fareed, a former associate professor of Islamic studies at Wayne State University.
“I think this is just criminality, fair and square. We should just call them criminals. You want to call them terrorist criminals, fine,” he said. “But adding the word ‘Muslim’ or ‘Islamic’ certainly doesn’t help our cause as Americans. It’s counterproductive. It paints an entire community of believers, 1.2 billion in total, in a very negative way. And certainly that’s not something that we want to do.”...
— from the article above
Criminality is the work of individuals, who break the law because they feel like it; it is prompted not by ideology, but rather by what has prompted criminal activity since the beginning of time.
Terrorism by Muslims is quite different. It is the act either of a collective, of Muslim, acting in concert, and supported financially and morally by other Muslims who may prefer to participate in violent Jihad indirectly (the better, for example, to participate in other, non-violent, just as dangerous and possibly more effective methods of Jihad to remove all obstacles to the spread, and dominance, of Islam). Where an individual Muslim may be acting, he is doing so not on his own behalf, not to enrich himself, but to further what he has learned — and learned fro the texts, not mistranslated and not misunderstood, of Islam itself: Quran, Hadith, and Sira.
Furthermore, it is important that Infidels understand that they are having war made upon them, and that the war is not limited to what non-Muslims correctly identify as “terrorism” but that many, or most Muslims, are easily persuaded is not terrorism at all but rather a form of qitaal, or combat, simply updated to meet modern conditions, where the Infidels have military superiority — so unfair! — and bombs in restaurants and on busses and planes smashed into buildings is merely a form of “equalizing,” of levelling the grimmest of playing-fields.
It is important to use the phrase “Muslim terrorism” if the only alternative is “terrorism.” But it would be most helpful to speak and write of Jihad, to explain what Jihad means — means and has meant, to Muslims, over the past 1350 years (and to quickly get over the ludicrous business of those who pretend the word’s main meaning is something about an interior struggle to maintain a virtuous life, or somesuch variant).
Why is it important to use the word “Jihad”? Because emphasis, exaggerated emphasis, on “terrorism” makes people pay no attention to much more effective and dangerous instruments of Jihad — the Money Weapon, campaigns of Da’wa aimed at the psychically and economically marginal, and demographic conquest. The latter is especially worrisome. Consider the Netherlands, where there were 1,500 Muslims in 1960, 15,000 in 1970, 800,000 in 2004, and over a million today.
It is unfortunate that none of the political leaders in the West, and few in the press, radio, television, feel they have a responsibility to learn the contents of Islam, or to learn something of the history of Islamic conquest, and subjugation of non-Muslims, over the past 1350 years. A great deal could be learned. It requires some effort and some time, and nowadays how many, in the class of people whose responsiblity it is to protect and instruct us, would take that time, and make that effort?
The answer is: very few.
And we will all pay, we have already in the countries of Western Europe — in Great Britain and France, in Germany and Spain, in Belgium and Italy and the Netherlands and Denmark and Norway and Sweden — all paid and will be grimly paying, for the fact that the political and media elites were so criminally negligent, over the past 35 years, as Muslim immigrants, by the millions, were allowed in, and given every conceivable benefit, and allowed to build mosques and madrasas, to settle in, without anyone questioning what this meant, what Islam was all about, whether or not the “problems” — as they are demurely called — with Muslim migrants were merely, as some continue to pretend, the same problems that all immigrants experience or present, or whether there was something about that “problem” that had to do with the nature of Islam, as a Total Belief-System, inculcated with a brainwashing, and reinforced at every level, in states, societies, communities, even families suffused with Islam, that explains why, in every Infidel land, no matter what its makeup or what its politics or what the attitude of its citizens, the same problems are posed by one particular group of immigrants and by no other group — not by Chinese, Hindus, Vietnamese Buddhists, not by Caribeean blacks, nor by non-Muslim blacks from sub-Saharan Africa, not by Mexicans, not by Central Americans, not by Andean Indians, not by any group at all — but posed by Muslims, to the extent that they take their Islam seriously, wherever they come from.
And that is the fix that Western Europe, and therefore the historic West, is now in. It was a problem that, had the handful of cassandras — see for example the writings of Jacques Ellul — been heeded, could have been avoided. Entirely manageable once, manageable — with great difficulty-—today, but only if Muslmig mirgation is halted, funds from Saudi Arabia and other rich Arab states prevented from being used to build up a fifth column within the Infidel lands — through mosques, madrasas, propaganda, and armies of Western hirelings, some of them merely venal, some of them somoething worse, all of them traitors to the West, who deserve to be seen, and to be treated, as we would have treated those who were in the pay of Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia.
Posted by: Hugh at April 21, 2008 7:25 PM
from this thread at jihadwatch...here...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020747.php#comments
Many thanks to Hugh Fitzgerald and the outstanding posters at jihadwatch.
My own take is that this is political jihad from another anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-life Muslim POS who holds a title from a lesser collective whose sole purpose is to promote the greater collective.
Wayne State University, eh? I graduated from Wayne State. Perhaps Muneer & I will cross paths one day.
"Miscreant" is the word Pakistan and others in the area use to refer to the ISLAMIC TERRORISTS. Considering the definition of "miscreant", I think McCain aught to add it to his repertoire:
Miscreant:
1. depraved, villainous, or base.
2. Archaic. holding a false or unorthodox religious belief; heretical.
–noun 3. a vicious or depraved person; villain.
4. Archaic. a heretic or infidel
Islamic Miscreants
McCain is giving us a chance to stop the PC crap and exercise our right of free speech = PC has been/is an insidious weapon that has brought a lot of harm to this world. It needs to die...
If the shoe fits.....................
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