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Las Vegas ricin suspect says he's 'not a criminal'
Baltimore Sun ^ | April 17, 2008 | Ashley Powers, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

Posted on 04/18/2008 11:34:46 PM PDT by Deo volente

LAS VEGAS - A loner who long had struggled financially, Roger Bergendorff told investigators that he found making ricin an "exotic idea."

So he researched the deadly toxin online. He bought "The Anarchists Cookbook." He ordered castor bean seeds -- ricin comes from the processed beans' waste -- apparently posing as a fictitious customer: "Roger's Patio and Garden."

He donned a mask and gloves, mashed the beans with acetone, dried out the oil and stored the light-colored powder in a polypropylene container.

According to a six-page federal complaint released Wednesday, Bergendorff fell ill while keeping a "crude" form of the poison at the Extended Stay America hotel in Las Vegas, where he lived with his cats and German shepherd.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: anarchistscookbook; bergendorff; lasvegas; pen; poisonpen; ricin; rogerbergendorff
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1 posted on 04/18/2008 11:34:46 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente

He claims he was just having fun.

SURE he was!


2 posted on 04/18/2008 11:42:46 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente

He IS an idiot, though, who put others in harm’s way. Brilliant of them to publish the recipe.


3 posted on 04/18/2008 11:59:49 PM PDT by informavoracious (God BLESS America)
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To: Deo volente

This guy was one sick mother. An accident just waiting to happen. This could have turned out a lot worse than just him getting poisoned, a lot worse.

His cousin Mr. Tholen now believes this guy was making ricin in Tholen’s basement....Mr. Tholen is one lucky fella.

This guy needs to be put away for a really, really long time.


4 posted on 04/19/2008 12:02:09 AM PDT by kozanne
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To: kozanne

from another article:

Nearly two weeks after he was admitted to the hospital, Extended Stay employees entered Bergendorff’s room and discovered two .25-caliber semi-automatic pistols, a .22-caliber Ruger rifle and a .22-caliber Browning pistol. Each had a homemade silencer attached.

Las Vegas police summoned to the motel room found an “Anarchist’s Cookbook” with recipes for deadly poisons. A page describing how to make ricin had been marked.

A total of 4 grams of the deadly substance later were discovered in a vial and a beaker stored in a bag in Bergendorff’s room.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/17842429.html


5 posted on 04/19/2008 12:08:37 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: kozanne
Also from the article linked in #5 above:

...FBI agents who searched Bergendorff's storage unit in Utah found a sketch of "an injection device disguised as a pen" that would be used to disseminate the toxin, the federal complaint states.

"Bergendorff admitted that there have been people who have made him mad over the years and he had thoughts about causing them harm to the point of making some plans," the complaint states. "However, he maintained he never acted on those thoughts or plans."

Bergendorff showed off his silencers to his cousin, Thomas Tholen, and explained he made them "because they were fun," according to the complaint. Tholen was arrested in Utah for having knowledge of Bergendorff producing ricin and not informing authorities.
6 posted on 04/19/2008 12:12:11 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: penelopesire

Roger Bergendorff in court telling the judge he was just having some “fun” cooking up ricin.

The judge wasn’t impressed.

I’m still trying to find a photo of the guy.


7 posted on 04/19/2008 12:16:50 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente

For some reason...I’m not buying into this story that the guy says at all. Why show up in Vegas? Why mess with ricin anyway? If you know the consequences...what is the enticement to make the stuff? This guy had alot on his plate and probably was going to market or sell the stuff to someone.


8 posted on 04/19/2008 12:21:43 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Deo volente

WHY would a normal human being find it necessary to “experiment” with a substance that could kill LOTS of people very quickly and very stealthily? I think the short answer is: A NORMAL person wouldn’t.

I don’t care what this idiots motives may have been. They should lock him up and lose the key. Anyone with a mindset that irresponsible should not be mingling with the general public!


9 posted on 04/19/2008 12:27:50 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: pepsionice
Do you remember the assassination of Bulgarian dissident Georgi Markov, the man who was jabbed in the thigh by an umbrella tipped with ricin?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/01/07/terror.poison.bulgarian/

And Bergendorff had a drawing of some kind of injection device disguised as a pen...makes you wonder what he was planning.

10 posted on 04/19/2008 12:31:07 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente
In my salad days I made gunpowder and what have you, but messing about with poison was beyond the pale. Even I knew that there were some boundaries...I thank God that I survived, and would not say boo to a goose today.
11 posted on 04/19/2008 12:40:54 AM PDT by ashtanga
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To: Deo volente

Is it my imagination, or did that article just tell me how to make ricin?

Amazing that they can go into such detail with that, but they still can’t explain how Hillary Clinton made $100,000 in the cattle futures market, or how Saddam Hussein was corrupting the United Nations with the Oil For Food program.


12 posted on 04/19/2008 12:42:48 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (There's more proof that Operation Chaos is working than there is proof that Global Warming is real.)
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To: ashtanga

EXCERPT:
The man arrested Wednesday for possession of ricin, a poison considered to be a weapon of mass destruction, had enough of the illegal toxin tucked inside his Las Vegas motel room to kill about 522 people, federal authorities said.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/17842429.html


13 posted on 04/19/2008 12:46:19 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Question Liberal Authority

it takes a little more than vague hints to make ricin (although if you eat the beans, it makes you sick)...the bad news is that I’ve seen the cookbook on p2p and torrant sites.


14 posted on 04/19/2008 12:49:32 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
Is it my imagination, or did that article just tell me how to make ricin?

That "Anarchist's Cookbook" is pretty well known. If anyone wanted the recipe, it would be very easy to get it.

And Hillary made all that money on cattle futures because she's just a very lucky lady!
15 posted on 04/19/2008 12:49:43 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente

Perhaps a curious question...but just how many folks die in Vegas in a normal week...and does that compare to cities of the same size?

It’d be a mighty simple act for a guy to bring his wife out to Vegas...to sit at the slots....and then have a guy come by and jab her. The gal dies at the machine and the medical folks proclaim this a simple heart attack. The guy goes home and collects on her insurance policy...buries the wife...and buys a new pontoon boat.


16 posted on 04/19/2008 12:54:41 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: singfreedom

This is a more mundane question, but how did he afford the $1200/month for the Extended Stay hotel room if he was unemployed and broke? Not to mention his other living expenses.

And he was on the move for several years. Utah, then Southern California, then Las Vegas. Who was supporting him?


17 posted on 04/19/2008 1:00:10 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente

From the article it seems he made Ricin before. It seems he never used it. What may have started out an inquisitive man’s hobby, could very easily have turned at some point to something much more sinister. Once you have something, there’s a tendency to want to use it.

The silencers on the guns is worrysome. It seems to me that he may have been thinking blackmail of a casino.

On the other hand, he may have been an excentric.

The problem is, the authorites will never know, and this guy isn’t going to see the light of day for a while IMO.


18 posted on 04/19/2008 1:02:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It doesn't matter he isn't conservative. Now it doesn't matter if it's not Constitutional.)
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To: pepsionice

I don’t know where to go to check those kind of stats.

But your hypothetical sounds like a great plot for a CSI episode.


19 posted on 04/19/2008 1:06:11 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: DoughtyOne

The “injection device disguised as a pen” worries me, too.

Although it looks like he was only at the drawing board stage on that one.


20 posted on 04/19/2008 1:08:32 AM PDT by Deo volente
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