Posted on 04/18/2008 6:43:58 PM PDT by ovrtaxt
Rep. Tom Tancredo – who vied for the Republican presidential nomination to make illegal immigration a priority issue – suggested in a House speech yesterday that Pope Benedict XVI is encouraging Latin Americans to come to the U.S. to bolster flagging membership in the Catholic Church.
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If I lose my salvation over questioning a pope about his interference in our internal affairs, then far more sinister powers are at work in this world.
You are so insecure in your faith that it's like a cry for help. I pray you find it.
As if we don't do that. Housing, medical care, education and rights that should be given only to citizens. Especially with illegals. Ever read the illegal alien crime and DUI threads here? No? I thought not.
On matters of faith and dogma, I agree whole-heartedly.
On United States immigration policy, NO.
You have no more clue about my faith than you do about the state of Pope Pius’ soul.
If one can be automatically excomminucated for laying violent hands on the Pope, perhaps you can find a way with your lips. Show some respect to the Pope. He carries a heavier weight than any man or even president. Much heavier.
And that in a crux is your problem. You treat it as if the Holy Father picks and chooses between politics and religion. I promise you if His Holiness is weighing in on it there is likely a deeply meaningful reason. Conservatives (like me) love it when the Holy Fathers speak out on abortion. Perhaps we should also strive to understand even embrace them also on things we don’t immediately come to see as evident. I find that the Holy Fathers are rarely wrong, especially the recent ones. They are not blithering fools and are chosen by God for a reason.
if you were raped by a priest you need to know that it was not your fault, they were the adult, you should not feel guilty about it even if you enjoyed it it does not mean that your are gay, get a good lawyer and see if you can at least make the best of a bad situation, I only hope you can find some peace
Thank you, Dane.
No, I understand your objection to what you are calling a “personal attack” on the Pope. I simply disagree with your assessment that it WAS a “childish” and “nonsensical” “personal attack.”
Previously I thought it MIGHT have displayed a lack of tact, and I still do think that Tancredo will have (now has?) gotten more negative response than positive, so it probably did not help his cause much. But the more and more I read about the Church’s stance on the issue and how involved they are with the immigration issue and how intertwined the Pope’s seemingly innocuous (if you don’t know the background) remarks are with the underlying amnesty issue and how the Vatican and the Catholic church hierarchy here in the U.S. is acutely aware of his hot-button issue and how much anticipation there was from Latinos prior to the Pope’s visit for him to address the immigration issue and give them “hope” and “humane treatment” (i.e. push for amnesty and compromises for illegals)...well, the more and more I am utterly convinced that Tancredo was dead-on correct.
Call his approach childish and nonsensical if you will, and I agree it won’t make him many political points, but I don’t he cares about that. And call me cynical if you will for not taking the Pope at face value as a man of “love” and “peace” and all of that, and seeing an underlying agenda there that the Church has been pushing. Tancredo just stands up and calls ‘em as he sees ‘em, and I respect him for having the guts to call a spade a spade.
Small typo: “...don’t THINK he cares about that.”
You are true, up to a point. But be careful, because you’re starting to sound like you’re deliberately being contrary to the parable of the Good Samaritan.
Anyone can claim online to be a Catholic.
You are one seriously sick individual.
You get the idea.
Indeed. And I'm glad to join you in that claim.
I daresay my claim is more credible than yours.
I'll leave that one up to God.
Thank you, someone had to say it. God save us from demagogues.
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