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Polygamous-sect children ordered to stay in Texas custody (DNA Tests Ordered)
From the Associated Press ^ | 5:52 PM PDT, April 18, 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/18/2008 6:30:59 PM PDT by granite

SAN ANGELO, Texas -- More than 400 children taken from a ranch run by a polygamous sect will stay in state custody and be subject to genetic testing, a judge ruled Friday. State District Judge Barbara Walther heard 21 hours of testimony over two days before ruling that the children be kept by the state. Individual hearings will be set for the children over the next several weeks. She ordered that all children and parents be given genetic testing. Child welfare officials have said they've had difficulty determining how the children and parents are related because of evasive or changing answers.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: flds; jeffs; pedophillia; polygamy; yfzranch
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To: top 2 toe red

It’s all statutory rape in the state of Texas so it’s moot. Where are the raids on planned parenthood, the schools, etc?


181 posted on 04/18/2008 11:25:36 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: SouthTexas
...does not mean I support or uphold anything ANY of the Mormons do.

These cults are NOT Mormons, the Mormon church has nothing to do with these crazy cults...by the way where in SouthTexas are you from? YFZ is also in SouthTexas, isn't it?

182 posted on 04/18/2008 11:30:06 PM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel)
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To: SouthTexas

Surely you are fawning ignorance, you could not possibly believe the crap you are posting.


183 posted on 04/18/2008 11:31:54 PM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel)
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To: SouthTexas

I really think that you should take a little time to learn some new things, you could start with looking at Warren Jeffs and the fundamentalist Latter Day Saints of Jesus Christ, and answering some of the basic questions on your own.

Also that “well, what about those guys” excuse for not stopping a crime is childish, if you want to raid planned parenthood change the law, then we will, (at least in Texas).


184 posted on 04/18/2008 11:32:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (FLDS supporters, at least pretend to be repulsed by the child rape that has been proved.)
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To: top 2 toe red

Uh, not even close.


185 posted on 04/18/2008 11:34:54 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: SouthTexas

The glass is half full side of me thinks that maybe, someday, law enforcement in this country will take down every child molester, hard. But the realistic side of me screams that there will be a significant push to record this episode as just another in a supposed line of transgressions of those *religious*, as in “the atheists and agnostics are immune from it all.”

Let’s both keep our chins up.


186 posted on 04/18/2008 11:35:45 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Awestruck

It doesn’t matter if he’s a liberal or not.

And now it doesn’t matter if it’s Constitutional or not.

Welcome to DU.


187 posted on 04/18/2008 11:39:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta; Azrael; Peter Libra; org.whodat; DugwayDuke; Mr. Silverback

Listen: these kids cannot have received welfare without birth certificates. However, the state evidently has cause to believe some certificates they were given have been altered or falsified. Trouble is, many of the women and children have the same names.

What none of you have nailed is the very real potential for incest. We will find out when the DNA comes back. I think we haven’t yet scratched the surface. Peter Libra said it best: this is a massive welfare fraud using state funds to fund pedophilia and possibly more unspeakable crime.


188 posted on 04/18/2008 11:42:05 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: top 2 toe red
Why don't you go back and read what I was answering, better yet, I'll post it for you:

How do you think the underaged girls got pregnant? Don’t you think that qualifies as evidence?

If you believe this is sufficient, you better get busy calling the cops because they are in every school in the country. Assuming that their "boyfriend" did it, is not based in fact. Confiscate the children, start the DNA testing...

189 posted on 04/18/2008 11:42:58 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: Azrael

These are separate and multiple crimes. If the ‘mothers’ had been able to provide whatever the state requested, their ‘children’ would not have been taken into custody.
The state is doing their job. The nutjob who started it is a separate matter and they are dealing with it separately.


190 posted on 04/18/2008 11:49:23 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: ansel12
Warren Jeffs has been in the news more in the past two weeks than he was when he was convicted.

Not using any excuse for anyone, I think they all should be prosecuted. Just asking for the same zeal of condemnation for the rest.

191 posted on 04/18/2008 11:50:07 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: kittymyrib

Well, we’ll at least silence those critics who claim that the state took children from their mothers and “tore up families”, because the children were taken from their mothers by the cult leaders and were given to other women, and then passed around again, and sometimes again.

No, the state did not remove children from their mothers, but the state may find out who the mothers are.


192 posted on 04/18/2008 11:53:02 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: SouthTexas

That’s a lie. There are no sex slave cults connected to this organization operating in any Jr High in this country.


193 posted on 04/18/2008 11:56:45 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: Kryptonite

I really don’t see them trying to defend this as a freedom of religion issue, although I’m sure it will come up. Sadly I see it getting worse everyday in the acceptance of teen pregnancies and the welfare system that supports it.


194 posted on 04/18/2008 11:57:33 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: Azrael

Your jumping to conclusions planted by the sex cult sympathizers, aren’t you?
There is no proof of what you claim.


195 posted on 04/18/2008 11:57:56 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: org.whodat; judithann; Hattie; Wil H; Azrael; southern rock

There were some interesting questions about the case on Nancy Grace, like: who’s minding the zoning and tax data on 1700 acres of land purchased for what they call their religion and what we call illegal?

Keep in mind, there is reputed to be a high temperature furnace on the compound. High enough to remove DNA evidence. And they believe in ‘blood atonement’ - that if you fail to adhere to the faith you are eligible to have your throat slit.


196 posted on 04/19/2008 12:00:36 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem

Last time: I was responding to a question that said wasn’t the presence of pregnant girls sufficient evidence.


197 posted on 04/19/2008 12:01:44 AM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

No birth certificates means no death certificates will be needed for the “expendable”, either.
Someone reported that this compound had built a crematorium, or was building it.


198 posted on 04/19/2008 12:01:49 AM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: SouthTexas

Agreed. Too bad all the articles have FLDS in ‘em instead of ACLU.


199 posted on 04/19/2008 12:08:50 AM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Kryptonite

Yeah, very good point.


200 posted on 04/19/2008 12:09:49 AM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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