Posted on 04/17/2008 10:12:04 PM PDT by Howdy there
DENVER -- A Colorado Springs woman was arrested on charges of false reporting to authorities and is being investigated for her alleged involvement in the call that tipped authorities off to possible abuse at a Texas polygamist compound.
Police said they arrested 33-year-old Rozita Swinton at her home on Wednesday.
The Texas Rangers were in Colorado Springs Wednesday as part of their investigation involving the compound in Texas. They left and have not filed any charges on Swinton, said Colorado Springs police spokesman Lt. Skip Arms.
Arms said he could not discuss any aspects of the Texas case. The affidavit for the Colorado Springs case has been sealed so details cannot be released, he said.
Call7 Investigators reported this is not be the first time Swinton has been arrested on charges of making false reports to authorities. According to KRDO, the charge against Swinton was made in connection to calls received by police in February indicating she was 13 years old and trapped in a basement.
Watch 7NEWS at 10 p.m. for a live report.
hearsay is “testimony of an out of court statement uttered to prove the truth of the matter asserted.” You yourself could be in court and your out of court statement could suffer a hearsay objection.
Then there are a slew of exceptions and a slew of out of court statements that are specifically defined as not heresay.
Whatever the hell that has to do with girls 16 years and younger being impregnated by old pedophiles masquerading as spiritual leaders in Texas, I don't have a fricken' clue!
Surely you are not honestly suggesting there is a correlation between the two...ARE you?!?
There is a DALE BARLOW.
HE is a convicted sex offender.
He used to be a proud member of the FLDS sect (cult).
He used to have a ‘wife’ who was underage.
Her name was ‘Sarah’.
She escaped from the cult.
She showed up at homeless shelters at first, then got into an abused women’s shelter.
She told her story of rape, and servitude. How she feared she would be just ‘traded’ off if she questioned her ‘husband’ or the PROPHET.
Swinton went to abused women shelters as well. Telling her sad (but untrue) stories.
She heard Sarah’s story during one of those ‘pay attention to me’ excursions.
So, years down the road, she decides to use it.
Dale Barlow had long since been removed from the cult.
The CPS sweeps in and is able to get into the COMPOUNDS inner sanctum, for the first time since it was opened (the facility in TEXAS).
Even though there were six ‘Sarahs’ on the FLDS records, and identified as such, none of the six admitted to making any phone calls.
Dale Barlow hasn’t been anywhere near the FLDS compound in years.
BUT..... the CPS and State LE do find multiple underage females who are pregnant, or have already borne children.
So, it’s obvious the practice continues, even if the original complainer isn’t around, and the calls were a repeat of an old (BUT TRUE) story.
But posters will continue on, making eventual fools out of themselves, while they speculate on, and on, about how the whole thing is a ruse the State perpetrated just so they could have 400+ children on their hands and try to find them new, and suitable home environments.
When this is all over, I plan on remembering the NAMES of the posters who really kept open minds, and who looked at all aspects of each new piece in the puzzle.
The rest, I’ll just forgive.
They are mislead, uninformed, and highly judgmental.
...and the world keeps on turning.
Could be... thanks.
children are nototiously compliant witnesses. If it does pan out that this woman did in fact place the call, if this police claim is substantiated are really happening, their use of those children as witnesses is gone.
Does anyone know if Texas requires all depositions/interviews with children to be video taped?
The crematorium? Oh, I agree. Why would a private group need an onsite crematorium? Seems doubly suggestive when you think that the children are born on site, and there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of birth and death records.
However, I don’t know much about things like hunting—could there be a valid reason for a crematorium on an all-inclusive place like this? To get rid of animal carcasses, for example? (Not that I’d buy it, but I thought I’d be a little objective!)
“No, I simply said I don’t know yet... perhaps that’s because I really haven’t heard much other than what I see on the news.”
“It’s just a subject I’m not very familiar with yet, but I’m trying to catch up on the facts. “
Second: You should get the “MOST INTELLIGENT POST” award.
There have been over 50 threads on the FLDS, since this started, and most people who post on here, would NEVER say what you said.
“But I could be wrong. I’m just surprised that so many Freeper s have been acting like the government must be wrong on this because they’re the government. “
You know why. We all know.
That still doesn’t make it true, in this case.
“I believe, and am willing to wager, that there will be a huge settlement in this case.”
Yes. And hopefully the cult’s $100 million trust fund will be taken and given as a settlement to the women and children who have suffered through this.
Inbred severe mental retardation, forced retardation by oxygen starvation from childhood, and sex with a minor.
Those MEN of the FLDS owe these women quite a huge settlement, and they should go to jail.
Oh, wait, Warren JEffs and another man ARE in jail for this very crime.
And 10 others have been indicted.
“I haven’t heard about the teenage boys.”
Google: LOST BOYS
You’ll find all the info you want.
Other suggestions: GOOGLE: FLDS, and WARREN JEFFS.
You might want to get a puke bag first.
well, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, I distrust the government (federal and state) much more than the FLDS.
“The FLDS are a bunch of sick, twisted zealots that are detroying a generation of children with their sexual perversions, in the name of their religion.”
Well, at least four generations of children. But, otherwise correct.
how about ‘yuck’, is that better? :)
Arresting the men would mean having evidence and pressing criminal charges. These types of charges operate under the State's civil*common law. That's why arrested criminals have 'rights'.
Taking the children and 'inviting' the women to leave was done under the State's civil*administrative law. This action requires practically no evidence, just innuendo. That's why a phone call was sufficient to trigger the warrant.
Administrative law is not Constitutional law except in a few, very specific areas.
“Swinton went to abused women shelters as well. Telling her sad (but untrue) stories.
She heard Sarah’s story during one of those ‘pay attention to me’ excursions.
So, years down the road, she decides to use it.”
Can you source the part above? Because if you can, I lost a bet (FR Donation) - I thought the caller would turn out to be a social worker.
“Have they already been removed and locked up? “
They are staying in the compound. Evidence must be processed before arrests can be made, and that takes a little (in this case, with 400 children, a lot of) time.
It is only the proof of ‘who’ that is slow coming.
Proof of ‘what’ was found when the Search Warrant was served.
That is why the children were removed, along with the mothers who voluntarily went with them.
My understanding is:
The evidence is pregnant underage girls. The reason they seized the children is to prevent further abuse; I believe this is what the court hearings are on now, to see whether this can be ruled.
As for charging the fathers, they’re not talking much and lying when they do. It will take further investigation and maybe dna samples.
“It does appear now that someone filed a false report, and the warrants may not have been well grounded.”
Well, at least one. There were two other calls. Were they false, or from the same person as the first? We are not being told.
“If this does jeopardize some of the prosecutions, that’s going to be a terrible thing.”
This ‘call’ or three ‘calls’ were not the only evidence in existence. THIS CHURCH(CULT/SECT/FOUNDATION) has a RAP SHEET as LONG AS YOUR ARM.
That's not the case with even most of us. A lot of us are concerned that due process is not being followed, this case stinks and horrible precedents are being set.
CPS grabbing 400 children and then going after permanent custody without any criminal charges being filed? That scares the living sh*t out of any parent.
why does it scare them? Because these people are citizens just like you and me. If CPS can do this to an unpopular religious group, they can do it to ANY citizen.
The people getting 13-15 year old women pregnant? They're disgusting pedophiles. The government doing all of this without observing due process? It's an out of control jugernaut that terrifies parents.
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