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Obama Shaken, Rattled, and Rolled
Real Clear Politics ^ | April 17, 2008 | Dick Polman

Posted on 04/17/2008 10:00:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Just how bad was Barack Obama's debate performance last night? Not as bad as Britney Spears' song-and-dance routine at the MTV Awards. Not as bad as Bill Buckner's legendary error during the '86 World Series. Not as bad as Bob Dylan's music during his God phase. Not as bad as John Travolta's Scientology cinema experiment in Battlefield Earth. Not as bad as Mike Dukakis' fateful ride in a military tank.

In other words, Obama could have done worse. Neverthless, if he still harbors any hopes of driving Hillary Clinton from the Democratic race by scoring an upset victory in Pennsylvania, he might be wise to get real. It's hard to imagine that he won over the working-class, culturally-conservative Democrats who constitute the swing vote; if anything, his performance during the first 45 minutes of the debate may well have cemented their suspicions.

Obama's devotees will no doubt complain today that the ABC News inquisitors were grossly unfair, that they focused their fire on Obama while leaving Hillary Clinton relatively unscathed, and that they asked too many dirtball questions at Obama's expense. (George Stephanopoulos to Obama: "Do you think Rev. Wright loves America as much as you do?") Whatever. Whining about the media is the last resort of losers. The bottom line is that Obama didn't successfully adapt to the environment. For instance:

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demdebates; elections; hillary; obama
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To: Vince Ferrer

> Once she has completely failed in her bid for the presidency, I wonder how long she will remain married to him.

Forever, mate. Forever. Even Hillary is smart enough to know that no real man would be smart enough to shack up with her, even with her squillions of dollars. Not only is she as ugly as my butt, but she is as ruthless as a Funnel-web spider.

She’ll stay with Bill because that’s all she can ever have. And she’ll put up with his dalliances whilst pursuing her... other... interests as a well-known-but-unacknowledged “secret”. And the Arkancides will continue apace, as if nothing had ever happened.


21 posted on 04/17/2008 11:21:30 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: ModelBreaker

please, please don’t feel so nihilistic, we can get back on track as a sovreign nation. Yes, We Can. (hmmmm...)


22 posted on 04/17/2008 11:32:33 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: pissant
“Not as bad as Bob Dylan’s music during his God phase”

Wasn't "Infidels" one of those albums? I really enjoyed that music in college.

23 posted on 04/18/2008 2:29:17 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trying a new Tag line!


24 posted on 04/18/2008 2:38:58 AM PDT by Son House (God Enlightened me through Charles Gibson, the top Income Tax Rate Should be lowered to 15% too!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'll have an Obama on the rocks.
No make that shaken not stirred. With a twist of lemon.
25 posted on 04/18/2008 2:46:57 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Wonder why Obama hasn’t even had to win a real campaign, ever...IMO this has been a very manipulated candidate that has been handled expertly and allowed to rise to US SEnate via exreme support from the inbred Chicago corrupt politics....it is amazing that he has done so well against the Clintons...but I just have to think who can be backing this guy that cannot be exposed to sunlight or he whilts....the BHO Messiah may well be an international candidate in every sense of the word....he is owned by someone!


26 posted on 04/18/2008 3:36:53 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: EagleUSA

27 posted on 04/18/2008 4:51:53 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: llandres
please, please don’t feel so nihilistic, we can get back on track as a sovreign nation. Yes, We Can. (hmmmm...)

Maybe McCain/Obama/HRC would not be the final blow from which we cannot return. Or maybe we have already absorbed it--it could have been LBJ and the Nixon years. I don't know. But I've seen a lot of politics over a lot of years. The one thing that remains unchanged is that the amount of money flowing thru the US Congress's hands ALWAYS goes up, the number of people paid by the Federal Government to interfere in others lives always goes up and the size of the CFR always goes up. Even during the Reagan administration, this was true.

We are well on our way to being just another Oil Thugocracy, where various bad guys fight for control of the oil money and call it politics--perhaps we are there. But for us, the oil is the American economy, which produces 3 Trillion dollars in tax revenues every year. No person or group can stay uncorruputed by that much money and power nor could they manage it properly even if they remained so.

This is a roadmap to a totalitarian state and each increase in budget, regulators, etc makes the next increase more inevitable and easier to achieve. Frankly, I see no way off. I've been hoping for 50 years now that something would derail it. But the process hasn't even stopped for breath. Now, the barbarians are inside the city gates and they are thinking control of $3,000,000,000 a year sounds pretty good, and half of our population cannot even see the problem.

Frankly, I think we passed the tipping point either in the New Deal or the Great Society and the only question now is how bad and how fast? The pathetic 2008 contest is just a step on that path; but a telling one.

I'm too old for revolution. But I hope to live long enough be able to cheer on the next Sam Adams from the sidelines. And, I hope my son lives through it. The alternative is a slow, inevitable descent into a nasty, atheist, nanny-state globalist, totalitarianism.

So why don't I tell you how I really feel, huh? :) I wish you were right.

28 posted on 04/18/2008 7:20:06 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Not only is she as ugly as my butt, but she is as ruthless as a Funnel-web spider.

LOL ! Enjoyed your comment, and your about page.

29 posted on 04/18/2008 7:29:22 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Red Boots

> LOL ! Enjoyed your comment, and your about page.

(BIG GRIN!) Cheers, thanks for that!


30 posted on 04/18/2008 7:32:15 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: llandres
"As to the question posed to BHO about whether Rev. Johnson loves this country - BHO said yes, of course, he’s an ex-Marine. First of all, ask any Marine, they’re never an “ex”. Second, Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine. Timothy McVey was in the Army. BHO - lame, lame, lame."

As a former Marine, may I say you are exactly correct!! I cringe everytime he mentions Wright being an "ex Marine". I wish we could all keep that a secret so he does not bismirch the Marine Corps. May I also point out that unfortunately John Murtha and Charles Whittman were also former Marines. As you point out, it doesn't mean anything. There are wicked people that join the Marine Corps also.
31 posted on 04/18/2008 8:05:38 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Thanks, and thank you SO MUCH for your service to our country! As my buddy Sean Hannity would say, “you’re a great American”. :-)


32 posted on 04/18/2008 7:25:21 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: ModelBreaker

I hear you and appreciate your wise obsrvations. My dad’s almost 90 and my mom 81. Funny how they both think of me as young and indulgently excuse my zeal and (tenuous) optimism. I do worry about the issues you raise, and first and foremost, the relentless Islamic threat which also uses and benefits from the afore-mentioned issues. For the first time, I really understand the historic truth that great civilizations die from within. But I’m saying that, maybe, we still have more hope, honor and great possibilities than are generally covered by media or polls.


33 posted on 04/18/2008 7:38:24 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For the last four and a half months since Iowa, he's been believing his own BS. Must have been a big shock to find someone besides Hillary and McCain who doesn't fawn over him.

Chances are, he'll recover. He seems to have bounced back marvelously from the "bitter" thing, where he accuses small-town America of being snake-handling, gun-toting bigots.

34 posted on 04/18/2008 7:43:33 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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