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World's oldest living tree discovered in Sweden(!?!)
www.physorg.com ^ | 04/16/2008 | Source: Swedish Research Council

Posted on 04/16/2008 11:32:32 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: trumandogz

Druids would consider it the original god?


21 posted on 04/16/2008 11:51:47 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Red Badger
Although summers have been colder over the past 10,000 years, these trees have survived harsh weather conditions due to their ability to push out another trunk as the other one died.

What fascinates me about trees is their ability to act as a coherent whole, rather than as an agglomeration of discrete parts. Trees lack a brain or control system comparable to a nervous system in mammals. So what drives the "ability to push out another trunk as the other one died"?

I've also noticed an interesting phenomenon in trees when a new house lot is carved out of the woods. A tree that was formerly surrounded by other trees is left standing alone. Over the course of several years the tree's upper branches will die off, while the tree shoots out lower branches. It takes less energy to pump water half-way up the tree, so this phenomena makes sense for the health of the tree as a whole. But how does this mechanism work? How do scientists explain this phenomenon?

These phenomena seem to me to be evidence of the vegatative form or " vegatative soul."

22 posted on 04/16/2008 11:51:59 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Red Badger

(These aren't made too far from there either, great saws)

23 posted on 04/16/2008 11:59:10 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Red Badger

This looks to be a picture of it, from sciencedaily.com.

24 posted on 04/16/2008 12:01:10 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: Aquinasfan

God made the tree. He programmed the DNA sequence. It works. I do not question how or why.

Pruning the lower limbs of trees, lower than about 6 feet, will stimulate new growth at the top and bush out the sides.............


25 posted on 04/16/2008 12:02:02 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Aquinasfan
Just guessing here, but perhaps (1) the lower branches shoot out, because they can ... thanks to being able to see light where they couldn't before, and then (2) the higher branches die off, because they are getting less nutrition from the roots than before ... thanks to the lower branches stealing it.
26 posted on 04/16/2008 12:04:11 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: Red Badger

“9,550 year old spruce ... with the dramatic climate changes over time.”

Not possible, the world has told us America causes global climate changes.


27 posted on 04/16/2008 12:05:22 PM PDT by edcoil
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To: Red Badger
“The world's oldest recorded tree is a 9,550 year old spruce in .... Sweden”

Well, in Sweden, the sun does not go down in the summer and the sun does not appear in the winter. Sooooo, From Jan. 1 to Dec. 31 in Sweden, it's like 3 years already!

Therefore a 9,550 year old tree in Sweden would only be 3,183 years old in the US!

28 posted on 04/16/2008 12:11:39 PM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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How on earth could a tree be older than the earth itself?

Thats an easy one. Scientists, with fool proof science, found that by using the fool-proof technology of carbon 14 dating combined with the foolishly simple, error free science of dendrochronolgy, have conclusively shown that the trees are much older than anything else on earth. So put away your doubts, for THEY know all the answers, and we mere fools are not allowed to question THEM. And besides that, an equally wise and benevolent journalist is reporting these findings! /s

An independent study of carbion 14 dating and of dendrochronology, combined with a healthy skepticism, will cause you to be very cautious with regard to bold claims like these.

29 posted on 04/16/2008 12:13:52 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: TRY ONE

Now we need to find the world’s oldest dog..........


30 posted on 04/16/2008 12:14:47 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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You would think that the remarkable part of the story is that the spuces tend to migrate to Norway in the winter !?!

Maybe they are Jewish trees!...............

31 posted on 04/16/2008 12:16:26 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

Sounds Entish


32 posted on 04/16/2008 12:16:33 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: TRY ONE
"...a 9,550 year old tree in Sweden would only be 3,183 years old in the US!"

...or 66,850 dog years.

33 posted on 04/16/2008 12:18:39 PM PDT by T Minus Four
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An independent study of carbion 14 dating and of dendrochronology, combined with a healthy skepticism, will cause you to be very cautious with regard to bold claims like these.

Could you back up this statement concerning carbon-14 dating with some facts please.

And don't just cut and past from creationist websites. They lie.

(Make it good; I have some background in the field.)

34 posted on 04/16/2008 12:26:22 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: TRY ONE

That really happened here in the US - in the white mountains of Nevada there was a tree, affectionately dubbed WPN-114, they wanted to age. Often this is done by extracting thin cores, which doesn’t harm the tree, but on this occasion the precision drill bit broke, so rather than wait, they just lobbed it down in chunks. Bristlecone pine.


35 posted on 04/16/2008 12:31:32 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: trumandogz

That is the post of the day!


36 posted on 04/16/2008 12:37:11 PM PDT by manapua
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To: trumandogz

A thinking (and yet still literal) theologian would answer)the same way Adam was 35 when created: God created the world “old.”


37 posted on 04/16/2008 12:43:46 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: Red Badger

“Now we need to find the world’s oldest dog..........”

Funny....my wife just called me that this morning!

Militant


38 posted on 04/16/2008 12:44:24 PM PDT by militant2 ("From time to time, the tree of Liberty must be nourished with the blood of tyrants!")
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To: Red Badger

Sweden???


39 posted on 04/16/2008 12:45:47 PM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: edcoil

It was time traveling Republican americans that did that.

They went back in SUVs and also drank beer and farted.


40 posted on 04/16/2008 12:45:51 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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