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To: DoughtyOne

My wife disagrees a bit with my premise, and blames the mothers as well for being complicit. If that is true, brainwashed mothers being part of the problem, in allowing their children to be abused by adult males, that is one more issue, yet unproven. I have a better opinion of mothers in general to think most of them are brainwashed. Ever tried that with a woman?

None of this squares with the way this came down in Texas, and the original raid and the reasons for it have expanded far beyond what the State thought they were getting into. Polygamy was not an issue, and unfortunately that, most assuredly, is THE issue. If state and federal governments had not somehow accepted the situation for over fifty years, and set the precedent that they could live the way they liked, this may not be happening.

Unfortunately it is happening, and at the moment from my position, the innocent are the sufferers. Hopefully things will work out for everyone.


151 posted on 04/16/2008 12:04:45 PM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: wita
My wife disagrees a bit with my premise, and blames the mothers as well for being complicit.  I'm not convinced this is untrue.  I do believe that a certain amount of willing complicity and or complicity by fear was probably involved.  It still stands to reason, that if the men were removed, damage caused under the most serious allegation would be prevented for a period of time to facilitate further investigation.  Right of passage would be limited for a period of time, children to remain on the property, women to be accompanied for food shopping and other critical needs.

If that is true, brainwashed mothers being part of the problem, in allowing their children to be abused by adult males, that is one more issue, yet unproven.  It is unproven as of this time.  I do think women who played along should face the music, to some degree.

I have a better opinion of mothers in general to think most of them are brainwashed. Ever tried that with a woman?  Yes.  It worked for a while.  Oh, sorry guys, am I not supposed to admit that?  LMAO Some of these group setting dynamics can have false imprisonment (if that's the proper term), which means that the moms couldn't leave with their children or some such.  If that were the case, it would be tough to throw the whole book at them.  Still, they could have probably gotten a phone call out.  Humans being like they are, we should take note that these women may not have had much in the way of familiy for friends on the outside.  Their recources may have been extremely sparce or non-existant.

None of this squares with the way this came down in Texas, and the original raid and the reasons for it have expanded far beyond what the State thought they were getting into. Polygamy was not an issue, and unfortunately that, most assuredly, is THE issue. If state and federal governments had not somehow accepted the situation for over fifty years, and set the precedent that they could live the way they liked, this may not be happening.  I'm not sure why it was allowed to fly under the radar.  The farm being such a self-sufficient enterprise, there wasn't a real opportunity for people outside to know precisely what was taking place there.  And that would be my only thought as to why it was allowed to continue.  Polygamy being wrong, it does seem like that would have been cause for action alone.  Still, it does appear they were only hooking up under religions marriages, and not with documented state involvement.

Unfortunately it is happening, and at the moment from my position, the innocent are the sufferers. Hopefully things will work out for everyone.

I agree here.  It's rather perplexing what is taking place.  On the one hand none of us wants to see young girls soiled or abused in this manner.  On the other hand we have seen the authorities blow it big time in cases like this, and aren't willing to grant one inch more rope than what is legally necessary to get this situtiaon under control, and the offending parties prosecuted.  As for CPS, it is one of the most troubling agencies around the world IMO.  I have read some absolute horror stories perpetrated by these agencies, and every employee seems to think they are the right hand of God.  It would be unfair not to admit that there is a need for agencies like this, unfortunately.  It would also be unfair not to admit that one hell of a lot of psycological scarring and family destruction can be perpetrated by one well meaning employee on a mission from God.

155 posted on 04/16/2008 12:30:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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