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Jonah Goldberg Nails It (Bitter debate)
Fox News | 4/15/08 | notbuyingit2

Posted on 04/15/2008 3:18:10 PM PDT by notbuyingit2

Jonah Goldberg has defined correctly what Americans are upset with in Obama's San Francisco speech. Goldberg said today on Fox News that elitism can be good (for instance, you want the best, most elite surgeon to do your surgery) and using the word "bitter" isn't the problem with Obama's speech; however, the problem comes with Obama's use of the word "clinging" in describing small town America's reverence for God and support of the 2nd Amendment. So, the problem with Obama is not so much elitism but arrogance.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bitter; cling; condescendingliberal; elite; obama; pa2008
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1 posted on 04/15/2008 3:18:11 PM PDT by notbuyingit2
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To: notbuyingit2

Listen up Goldberg, I know something that you and all those bitter rural folks don't know...

THE TRUTH ABOUT BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY

2 posted on 04/15/2008 3:21:05 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: notbuyingit2
Is anyone surprised that a kid who grew up as privileged and coddled as Obama, let's face it you cannot denigrate any of his background without scorn, is arrogant? Heck, people have been telling him for the better part of a year that he is the anointed one.
3 posted on 04/15/2008 3:25:35 PM PDT by benjamin032
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To: notbuyingit2

No use to his yet again trying to backpedal on his and his wife’s and his pastor’s and his radical Leftist supporters’ blatant disdain for America.

Totalitarian Marxist Obama and his international handlers do without a doubt intend to drag Americans away from the things they cling to dearly — these things are the values and beliefs that have made the American republic the fairest nation with the most opportunity for the most people in the history of man.


4 posted on 04/15/2008 3:30:57 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now ( Barak Hussein Obama is a Trojan Horse - Beware!)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
these things are the values and beliefs that have made the American republic the fairest nation with the most opportunity for the most people in the history of man.

Beautiful words. I just wanted to see them again.

5 posted on 04/15/2008 3:38:37 PM PDT by Cracker Jack (If it weren't for the democrats, republicans would be the worst thing in Washington.)
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To: Cracker Jack

I like Rush’s description of America as the shining city on the hill. I think that’s what he calls us. He’s right. RR had that vision and the democrats denigrate it at every turn.


6 posted on 04/15/2008 3:46:15 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dog breath? I don't think so.)
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To: notbuyingit2
What does Obama think about Rev. Wright CLINGING to his BITTER religion?
7 posted on 04/15/2008 4:19:27 PM PDT by elizabetty (I vote for four years without a president if these three clowns are the choice.)
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To: notbuyingit2

It looks like Hillary has fallen off the conservative target list. Is this a strategy or merely poorly-timed opportunism?


8 posted on 04/15/2008 4:36:30 PM PDT by Rudder (Klinton-Kool-Aid FReepers prefer spectacle over victory.)
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To: notbuyingit2
Yes I can smugly patronize those bitter small town nobodies! Yes I can dispense honorary black victimhood to whites! Yes I can embrace racist America haters! Yes I can! And you pathetic morons will still vote for me.

-The Great Uniter®

9 posted on 04/15/2008 4:37:13 PM PDT by TChad
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10 posted on 04/15/2008 4:44:28 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Thebaddog
Rush is quoting Ronaldus Magnus Reagan when he says “Shining city on the hill”. I believe it is the title of a speech Reagan gave.

Looking for the speech on youtube. I will post it.

11 posted on 04/15/2008 4:50:58 PM PDT by allmendream
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To: Jeff Head

Arrogance, n.: a feeling of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or presumptuous claims. Also see Obama, Barak.


12 posted on 04/15/2008 4:55:59 PM PDT by notbuyingit2
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Hayek does a wonderful job in describing the difference in the Anglican and Gallic traditions of Liberty. Gertrude Himmelfarb does as well.

The distinction is between the Scottish/English Enlightenment tempered by Common Law slowly distilled liberty with its empiricist outlook and the imitators of the French Enlightenment with their rationalistic approach.

The former produced the liberty of Britain and the United States of America and the later is responsible for the Terror, Napoleon dictatorship, Marxism, International Communism, Fascism and modern Progressivism.

Institutions and small units of government, custom and convention, and the careful work of time and reform made the holders of the Anglican tradition mindful of how much faith (producing a moral populace), specific right-to-bear-arms liberty and tradition were the things to rely upon in the final instance.

The French Enlightenment tradition looked for the General Will, centralized and totalitarian, expressed in rationalistic totalitarian Democracy through a strong central government and their planners to Give liberty to everyone and every need.

Obama was complaining the the simple conservatives of every political strip hold the Anglican view of liberty knowing that government isn't the answer retreat to what they know they can depend upon.

He doesn't want that...he wants them to turn to Central Government for all solutions in time of need. And isn't it outrageous, he tells his fellow leftists, that even some of the Democrats in rural PA don't understand the Leftist solution.

13 posted on 04/15/2008 4:56:16 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: notbuyingit2

Exactly. If he keeps at it, he can rasie himself from definition 2 or 3 up to definition 1 for the word.


14 posted on 04/15/2008 4:59:05 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: KC Burke

Yes, they (those in rural Pa.) understand it all too well.


15 posted on 04/15/2008 5:00:19 PM PDT by notbuyingit2
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To: Thebaddog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Z-nN1YB5A&feature=related

Reagan's farewell address. He used the quote often, as he mentions. The original quote is from John Winthrop (1588–1649)

QUOTATION: For we must consider that we shall be as a City upon a hill. The eyes of all people are upon us. Soe that if we shall deal falsely with our God in this work we have undertaken, and so cause him to withdraw his present help from us, we shall be made a story and a byword throughout the world.

16 posted on 04/15/2008 5:02:45 PM PDT by allmendream
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To: allmendream
Rush is quoting Ronaldus Magnus Reagan when he says “Shining city on the hill”. I believe it is the title of a speech Reagan gave.

It was a phrase Reagan used frequently. It originated with John Winthrop, a Puritan and the first governor of Massachusetts. He used it in a sermon given to his followers, in regards to the success or failure of their settlement, and that the eyes of the world would be upon them.

17 posted on 04/15/2008 5:26:02 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
I think it goes back a bit farther than that.

Matthew 5:14 " A city set on a hill cannot be hidden"
18 posted on 04/15/2008 5:31:35 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: notbuyingit2

If you have not read Mr Goldberg’s book “Liberal Fascism”, I highly recommend it. It is a scholarly book with a tremendous number of endnotes to document his points, as opposed to the many “opinionated” books that offer no such documentation.

Sincerely,

JoMa


19 posted on 04/15/2008 6:28:45 PM PDT by joma89
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To: benjamin032

Heck, people have been telling him for the better part of a year that he is the anointed one.

HAH! My opinion would get me banned!

20 posted on 04/15/2008 6:30:17 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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