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Costs soar for Mass. health care law
charlotte.com ^ | Apr. 12, 2008 | STEVE LeBLANC

Posted on 04/12/2008 8:49:42 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

RomneyCare strikes again and again and again....


21 posted on 04/12/2008 10:29:54 PM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: neverdem
$912 for individuals and $1,824 for couples by December.

So let's see: *breaks out the trusty calculator*

For the wife and I, 1824 per month * 12 months per year = $21,888 per year. If we don't need the govt's healthcare for a catastrophic emergency for 10 years, we get to pay the govt $21,888 * 10 = $218,880.00 for "service" that we don't use. If we don't use this "service for 20 years, we get the privilege of paying the overwhelming power of the State $437,760.

That's half a million dollars that's going to disappear out of the civil economy into that black hole of a govt economy for a "service" that we don't use. If we never have to use it, say for 50 years, that's a million bucks for a service that we have absolutely no use for!

And that's disregarding the taxes on the cigarettes that I smoke. Like the $100 billion dollars+ that smokers have paid over the years isn't enough. My home state of Iowa a year ago raised taxes on cigarettes a dollar a pack, just because. They really don't need the money but the smoking gestapo has the ear of the new Dem gov, so what the hell. And now we're going to be hit to support every program for deadbeats that they can dream up.

Someone remind me why I pay taxes again? Oh yeah, they'll send in tanks to kill me and mine like they did in Waco and Ruby Ridge.

THIS is why I always considered people who supported Romney to be total morons!!

Vote for lefty Romney and let Fred, Tom and Duncan crash, then call themselves conservatives. What a bunch of maroons!

22 posted on 04/12/2008 10:43:58 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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To: goldstategop

“Costs are soaring and Massachusetts lawmakers are weighing a dollar-a-pack hike in the state’s cigarette tax to help pay for a larger-than-expected enrollment in the law’s subsidized insurance plans.

“... the number of insured residents has soared by nearly 350,000.

“... the vast majority of the newly insured are receiving subsidized care.

“... set aside $869 million, but those overseeing the law have already acknowledged costs will rise even higher.”

What a surprise!!!


23 posted on 04/12/2008 10:49:32 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
I've been sitting here thinking about this story.

Almost $2,000 per month per family is a HUGE amount of money that the State is going to squeeze out of families! HUGE!

Scary stuff!

24 posted on 04/12/2008 11:06:33 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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To: neverdem
Businesses are also on the hook. Those with 11 or more full time employees who refuse to offer insurance face $295 annual penalties per employee.

Setting aside for a moment the obvious big-government tyranny of attempting to force private businesses to pay for their employees' health insurance, this sounds like quite a bargain. Only $295 per employee per year? Why would any business located in Massachusetts that doesn't offer to buy employees' health insurance coverage be intimidated by that paltry fine? The cost to insure an employee for a year costs many times that amount.

25 posted on 04/12/2008 11:20:06 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
Almost $2,000 per month per family is a HUGE amount of money that the State is going to squeeze out of families! HUGE!

Like I always say, people deserve exactly what they elect.

26 posted on 04/12/2008 11:22:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica; Lancey Howard; neverdem
Almost $2,000 per month per family is a HUGE amount of money

I think if you read the article carefully you will see that they probably mean $1824 per YEAR.

27 posted on 04/12/2008 11:47:28 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: neverdem

Doesn’t a carton of cigarettes in Mass. already cost like $50.00?


28 posted on 04/13/2008 12:02:13 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - The Original Slave Owners)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Interesting that no one at FR other than myself and nowhere in this story, of course, is there one iota about the possibility of hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens in MASS who are mistakenly referred to as “the uninsured” who’ve been using and bankrupting the system? Hmmm?


29 posted on 04/13/2008 12:59:03 AM PDT by levotb
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To: neverdem
Alaska Rats are trying to shove a similar scheme down our throats. It was brought up too late this year, but it will be on the front burner next year. By then we should have more info on the Assachusetts fiasco.
30 posted on 04/13/2008 12:59:30 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: wideminded
I think if you read the article carefully you will see that they probably mean $1824 per YEAR.

No matter how carefully you read the article this is a poorly written sentence, open to very different interpretations:

New monthly fines that kicked in this year could total as much as $912 for individuals and $1,824 for couples by December.

31 posted on 04/13/2008 1:26:20 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Only $295 per employee per year?

If I'm an employer, I'd pay the $295 in a New York minute. I'd be cutting my health insurance premium for my company by at least 95%.

32 posted on 04/13/2008 1:34:05 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Forget it...I'll never be able to pull the lever for McCain!)
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To: neverdem
“Businesses are also on the hook. Those with 11 or more full time employees who refuse to offer insurance face $295 annual penalties per employee. Already, 748 employers have failed to meet that threshold and have paid $6.6 million to the state.”

I'd drop coverage in a heartbeat as an employer if all it would cost me is $300 hundred a pop!

They'll figure out this loophole and the fine will increase 10 fold. Even still.

33 posted on 04/13/2008 3:20:14 AM PDT by poobear (tagline is on a coffee break!)
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To: neverdem
"No other state has launched as comprehensive a plan. California attempted their own health care expansion, but the $14.7 billion program failed to get out of a key Senate committee."

IL liberal gov Blago has been working (bribes, dirty tricks, threats, etc) on a state plan for some time now.

34 posted on 04/13/2008 3:24:19 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: neverdem

Rush covered this last week. Had an example of a 46 year old doctor. She was so bokked up that the next available slot she had for a physical exam was May of 2009. She reportedly was not making any real profit.


35 posted on 04/13/2008 3:28:28 AM PDT by Bommer (Hmmm who to vote for? A Far leftist? A Radical Leftist? Or a Republican that enjoys being a Leftist?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Cigarettes will soon be illegal. A few more price hikes and a lot less smokers...and then there won’t be enough people to make a good squawk about it.
And for various reasons, it won’t be like Prohibition in the result. It will not fail.


36 posted on 04/13/2008 4:32:48 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: endthematrix
*** IL liberal gov Blago has been working (bribes, dirty tricks, threats, etc) on a state plan for some time now. ***

He sure has. But the good news is *hopefully* he'll be recalled (1) or in Federal Prison first. Fitz has Blago in his sights.

(1) There's a Recall Bill going through the GA now just because of him. It should be named the Blago Recall Bill.

37 posted on 04/13/2008 4:59:39 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: neverdem
This is the so-called health plan Romney had in store for the nation? "(New monthly fines that kicked in this year could total as much as $912 for individuals and $1,824 for couples by December.) Another tax which Gov Patrick will keep in place, forced on the public!

Well, Hillary's plan will even be worse!

38 posted on 04/13/2008 6:08:14 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: neverdem

As long as hospitals are required to provide free care to less fortunate and illegals then something had to give since people like to use the ER as a walk in clinic.

I don’t fault Romney for demanding that people get some form of insurance. The issue is having a government program which opens up the door to all kinds of BS.


39 posted on 04/13/2008 7:35:42 AM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: wideminded
New monthly fines that kicked in this year could total as much as $912 for individuals and $1,824 for couples by December.

Ummmmm

40 posted on 04/13/2008 7:46:23 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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