Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Priest pleads guilty over church raffle scam
newsday.com ^ | April 12, 2008 | newsday.com

Posted on 04/12/2008 1:01:55 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day

BELVIDERE, N.J. - The former pastor of a Washington Borough church has pleaded guilty to running a church raffle scam.

The Rev. Robert Ascolese pleaded guilty Friday to three counts of theft, even as he maintained that he never knew he was doing anything wrong running a church raffle with fake "winners."

The $100-a-ticket raffles at St. Joseph's Roman Catholic Church were from 2001 to 2005, and were to raise $200,000 a year for the church, with an annual $200,000 going to winners.

But nearly $1 million of what was supposed to be winnings were funneled back into the struggling church and elementary school.

Some in the community and even the parish have defended [snip]

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: pastor; raffle; scam
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last
Robin Hood? Where did he give to the poor?

For five years, parishioners never figured out that nobody knew the "winners"?

1 posted on 04/12/2008 1:01:55 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Choose Ye This Day

How does this happen?

Our church has a parish council with a layperson elected as the financial advisor.

Even if a priest tried to swindle our church, it would seem the council would be able to pick up on it pretty quick.

Also...at our Church - it is the council, or sub-groups (altar society, pro-life, rural ministry, etc...) that hold fundraisers - not the priests.


2 posted on 04/12/2008 1:05:46 PM PDT by Scotswife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Scotswife

Yes, it sounds fishy that the finances were only directed by one person.

I’m the finance clerk in my church, but I cannot ever handle donations alone. Every dollar that comes in or goes out must be handled and acknowledged by at least two people.


3 posted on 04/12/2008 1:08:56 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (As government expands, liberty contracts. – Ronald W. Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Choose Ye This Day

At least it doesn’t appear that he personally benefitted from the withheld “winnings”.


4 posted on 04/12/2008 1:12:16 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Choose Ye This Day

I read it that he created fake winners so the prize money would go back into the church and school, not to himself. It was a scam, but he apparently did it with what he felt were good intentions, not to benefit personally.


5 posted on 04/12/2008 1:12:54 PM PDT by ShasheMac
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShasheMac

“he apparently did it with what he felt were good intentions...”

Just what the road to hell is paved with.


6 posted on 04/12/2008 1:16:07 PM PDT by toddlintown (On Obama's moral compass, "N" doesn't stand for "North.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Choose Ye This Day
Some in the community and even the parish have defended Ascolese as a sort of Catholic Robin Hood.

If the parishioners were OK with it who am I to complain?!
7 posted on 04/12/2008 1:16:26 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShasheMac

What’s the adage? No good deed goes unpunished and no bad deed goes unforgiven ...


8 posted on 04/12/2008 1:17:52 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Choose Ye This Day

I always wondered who the person was who kept yelling “Bingo”!


9 posted on 04/12/2008 1:18:39 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rockrr

So if “Some” people are okay with a person committing a crime you do not think you have a right to object?


10 posted on 04/12/2008 1:19:09 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Choose Ye This Day

This priest should be on Obama’s finance committee. Is Pelosi looking for talent?


11 posted on 04/12/2008 1:20:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Choose Ye This Day

Sad, he’s my elderly neighbor’s son and a childhood friend of my brother. His family is devastated.


12 posted on 04/12/2008 1:20:57 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Vote Obama! And we'll be picking shrapnel out of our butts for decades!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShasheMac
I read it that he created fake winners so the prize money would go back into the church and school, not to himself. It was a scam, but he apparently did it with what he felt were good intentions, not to benefit personally.

If that is the case, you can go rob a bank on Monday morning and give all your "winnings" to your church.

13 posted on 04/12/2008 1:21:28 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: trumandogz

Then, 4 stories, down is the Baptist preacher that stuck $45,000 of the disaster money in his own pocket. I would guess that the priest that put the money in the church school isnt going to have to worry too much about the sentencing.


14 posted on 04/12/2008 1:21:59 PM PDT by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Concho
Yeah, I saw that one that pastor is scum and should be prosecuted.

As for the priest and the fake raffle, he should be prosecuted as well.

Come to think of it, I always had suspicion about the raffles in the Church when I was a kid. It always seemed like the richest family in the church would win. It must have been fixed.

15 posted on 04/12/2008 1:27:05 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: trumandogz

Man, that’s a stretch, doncha think?


16 posted on 04/12/2008 1:27:54 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: rockrr

It would depend of what the meaning of “Some” is.

To me it would seem that is some people did not object, then some other people did object and thus there are victims willing to file a complaint.


17 posted on 04/12/2008 1:35:22 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Choose Ye This Day

Church dont have enough cash?Gesh....


18 posted on 04/12/2008 1:48:34 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: t1b8zs

This priest stole money from everyone who bought a ticket.

All these “excusists” can stick their excuses where the sun don’t shine. This priest is a thief. It does not matter where he put his stealings, he still stole them.


19 posted on 04/12/2008 2:05:05 PM PDT by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: ShasheMac

No, he didn’t benefit personally, but fraud is fraud. Most people enter a raffle thinking that there’s at least a tiny possibility that they might win. They at least think there’s a tiny possibility that *someone* might win.

When only the raffle organizers win, that’s fraud.

I always thought there were laws against financial fraud.


20 posted on 04/12/2008 2:13:44 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (As government expands, liberty contracts. – Ronald W. Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson