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Windows is 'collapsing,' Gartner analysts warn
Computer Worlds ^ | April 10, 2008 | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 04/11/2008 6:50:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: bcsco; AppyPappy

Thanks, will try that when I get home! (I have to figure out hotmail too.....)


141 posted on 04/11/2008 10:10:59 AM PDT by Fawn (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?r=1&ean=9781604743708)
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To: Fawn

You can try installing the Microsoft Outlook connecter:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7aad7e6a-931e-438a-950c-5e9ea66322d4&displaylang=en

Set it up with your hotmail acct & I think you can then just move the messages to your regular inbox. Good luck!


142 posted on 04/11/2008 10:11:47 AM PDT by Keme (Bush Contra Mundum)
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To: gjones77
I can’t justify buying a computer for double the price that an equal Windows machine would cost.

I don't think that price differential exists any more. The prices are pretty equivalent for comparable specs. Plus, with Macs you get the great ILife suite. But even if Macs do cost more I submit it's worth it. I just retired my Powerbook after 5 years (it still works fine, I just wanted something new). I don't know many Windows laptop users with five year old machines. I got my money's worth and then some.

143 posted on 04/11/2008 10:13:50 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: AppyPappy; rightsmart
That’s because you put Vista on an old machine.

Geez, rightsmart - don't you understand that your PC is Microsoft's b*tch? Just suck it up and get a 10 terabyte drive with a 40 GHz processor and 2 terabytes of RAM, so their bloatware can limp along until the next update...

144 posted on 04/11/2008 10:18:19 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Spitzer would have used the Mann Act against an enemy in a New York minute.)
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To: Fawn

Use Thunderbird to access Hotmail and Yahoo Mail

http://email.about.com/od/mozillathunderbirdtips/qt/et_free_hotmail.htm


145 posted on 04/11/2008 10:19:37 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: adorno
And, troubleshooting and maintenance of the pc and the software is not something that even some of the more savvy techies can handle or want to handle.

Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. It's too frequent and too complicated. I recommend newbies marry or date a techie.

146 posted on 04/11/2008 10:22:43 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: jalisco555

No, the cost difference is still there.

You have to compare apples to apples (no pun intended).

A Windows machine with the exact same specs as the Mac can be had at far less, I’m talking $600 range.

So I’m not going to pay an extra large premium because it has a plastic Apple on the front.


147 posted on 04/11/2008 10:26:05 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: gjones77

There’s a difference between price and cost.

The purchase price of a PC is a down payment.

:)


148 posted on 04/11/2008 10:28:30 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: jalisco555

The cheapest MacBook is $1,100 according to Apple’s website...for 1 gig RAM, 120GB HD, running 2.1 GHz Core 2 Duo.

If you spec out a Dell, for example, I can get an Inspiron model with same processor, 2 gig RAM and 250 GB HD for $900.

While Macs and PC prices are getting closer, there is still a fairly significant premium on Macs.

Oh and my wife has a Gateway Notebook for going on 6 years now, never had a problem....so now you know one who’s had one for longer than 5 years. ;)


149 posted on 04/11/2008 10:29:08 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68

If you spec out identical components, the Mac is cheaper. It’s been done many times. And the higher-end the system the more you save.


150 posted on 04/11/2008 10:32:15 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Only if you do stupid things to break it...

Like I said, I paid $1400 for a laptop with identical to a Mac Book that cost over $2100 and I’ve never had issues.

Plus, you also forget that hardware wise the Mac is identical to a PC now, it’s just the OS that’s different.

So you’re paying that premium for the privilege of using St. Steve’s OS.


151 posted on 04/11/2008 10:34:58 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: D-fendr

“If you spec out identical components, the Mac is cheaper.”

Actually if I spec out and build the machine myself, I come out way ahead of the Mac and better than Dell. ;)


152 posted on 04/11/2008 10:35:38 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: jalisco555

The Windows box I just replaced was almost 6 years old, and it’s going to be my wife’s and replace her 10 year old machine (which used to be my machine). Unless you’re addicted to the latest and greatest PCs last a good long time, really if I wasn’t a gamer I wouldn’t have replaced the machine, that’s why it’s becoming my wife’s.


153 posted on 04/11/2008 10:37:14 AM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: Slapshot68

I agree completely.

PC’s are a less expensive, more open, and far more scalable platform.

Mac is none of those and you pay a premium for being unable to make changes to your system.


154 posted on 04/11/2008 10:39:14 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: Keme; AppyPappy

Excellent....will try both...thank you.


155 posted on 04/11/2008 10:40:28 AM PDT by Fawn (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?r=1&ean=9781604743708)
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To: Slapshot68
Actually if I spec out and build the machine myself, I come out way ahead of the Mac and better than Dell. ;)

I don't think I have the guts or ability to build my own laptop. I admit I splurged and got the Macbook Air. What a great machine. Plus, I do lots of lecturing and am repeatedly surrounded afterwards by cute medical students ogling my laptop (and me?). And when I fly by cute flight attendants. That never happened when I had a Dell!

156 posted on 04/11/2008 10:41:24 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: D-fendr

Whenever I get email with pictures from my friend who uses a MAC...they never come out. That’s the only reason I hesisate to get one....most people can’t see the stuff you send them...and alot of programs don’t work on them.


157 posted on 04/11/2008 10:42:05 AM PDT by Fawn (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?r=1&ean=9781604743708)
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To: an amused spectator

LOL!


158 posted on 04/11/2008 10:43:23 AM PDT by Fawn (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?r=1&ean=9781604743708)
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To: jalisco555

Oh I’m not saying the Mac isn’t a good machine, it really is. But for me, at least, I can’t justify the premium over a PC, plus I’m into PC gaming for which there is obviously a much larger market.

To each his/her own!


159 posted on 04/11/2008 10:44:15 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Fawn

That’s mostly because Apple has always used it’s own graphics format for it’s internal apps, I believe it’s a *.pic format.

Windows uses *.bmp or *.jpg as it’s default witch are universal file types that any graphics app or web browser can open.

Linux uses *.png since it’s an open source format, and most browsers or apps can also use this extension since it’s free to use.


160 posted on 04/11/2008 10:45:36 AM PDT by gjones77
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