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Rogge says Olympics in 'crisis' ("But the IOC has weathered many bigger storms.")
AP on Yahoo ^ | 4/10/08 | Stephen Wilson - ap

Posted on 04/10/2008 3:01:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

BEIJING - Crisis. Disarray. Sadness. Four months before the opening of what was supposed to be the grandest Olympics in history, the head of the International Olympic Committee is using words that convey anything but a sense of joyous enthusiasm.

The protest-marred Olympic torch relay and international criticism of China's policies on Tibet, Darfur and human rights have turned the Beijing Games into one of the most politically charged in recent history and presented the IOC with one of its toughest tests since the boycott era of the 1970s and '80s.

"It is a crisis, there is no doubt about that," IOC President Jacques Rogge said Thursday. "But the IOC has weathered many bigger storms."

At the same time, Rogge called on China to respect its "moral engagement" to improve human rights and to fulfill promises of greater media freedom. He also reaffirmed the right of free speech for athletes at the Beijing Games.

Rogge spoke in Beijing just hours after the completion of the torch relay in San Francisco, where the route was shortened and the flame diverted to prevent disruptions by massive crowds of anti-China protesters.

Rogge's use of the word "crisis" to describe the torch relay and the Beijing buildup came as a surprise. The Belgian orthopedic surgeon's comments usually are measured and low-key.

He cited previous crises — the attack on Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics and the boycotts of the 1976, 1980 and 1984 Games.

"The history of the Olympic Games is fraught by a lot of challenges," Rogge said. "This is a challenge but you cannot compare to what we had in the past."

British IOC member Craig Reedie believes the worst is over.

"I hope that we are through it now," he said. "I think the furor that has affected the torch in London, Paris and to some extent in San Francisco will now die down. ... But it is fair to say that this kind of political protest is a new experience for the IOC and we have all found it extremely uncomfortable."

After the chaos caused by pro-Tibet demonstrators during torch relays in London and Paris, IOC officials were relieved the North American leg passed without any injuries.

"Fortunately, the situation was better in San Francisco," Rogge said. "It was, however, not the joyous party that we had wished it to be.

"Athletes in many countries are in disarray and we need to reassure them," he added. "Our major responsibility is to offer them the games they deserve. ... We have 120 days to achieve this."

Earlier in the week, IOC officials had contemplated possibly cutting short the international leg of the relay, but Rogge said Thursday that was not an option.

"This scenario is definitely not on the agenda," he said. "We are studying together with (Beijing organizers) to improve the torch relay, but there is no scenario of either interrupting or bringing (the torch) back directly to Beijing."

That doesn't mean, however, that local officials still might not shorten existing routes if security demands it.

Already, the head of the committee organizing the torch run in Indonesia said the route will be significantly shortened because of Chinese concerns it might attract pro-Tibet protests.

The relay, scheduled for April 22, was originally planned to follow a 10-mile course in Jakarta, but now it will only travel in the vicinity of the city's main sports stadium, said Sumohadi Marsis, the head of the organizing committee.

Hong Kong Chief Secretary for Administration Henry Tang said officials many tweak the torch relay route to ensure order when the flame arrives April 30. He said 3,000 police will be deployed.

Hong Kong newspapers reported Wednesday that officials may shorten the route and are considering transporting the torch to its next stop, the nearby gambling enclave of Macau, by plane instead of by boat to avoid protests at sea.

"We will constantly re-examine and improve the route so that the torch relay is smooth, safe, orderly and dignified," Tang said.

The flame will be carried through Buenos Aires, Argentina, on Friday, with a dozen other countries still to come. The relay also is expected to face demonstrations in New Delhi, India, which has a substantial Tibetan population, and possibly elsewhere on its 21-stop tour before arriving in mainland China on May 4. The Olympics begin Aug. 8.

Rogge said he had assurances from Beijing organizers that all measures were being taken to ensure the torch's "safe passage."

The future of international torch relays is in serious doubt, however. Rogge said "all options are open" for future games, including restricting the relays to the territory of the host country, a policy favored by a large number of IOC members. Athens, in 2004, was the first host city to organize a global relay.

Rogge said the issue would be reviewed later in the year — "not in the heat of this week's events."

Rogge, who has come under pressure from critics to speak out on China, was asked whether he had second thoughts about awarding the games to Beijing seven years ago.

"I've said that it is very easy with hindsight to criticize the decision," he said. "It's easy to say now that this was not a wise and a sound decision."

But Rogge insisted Beijing had "clearly the best bid" and offered the strong pull of taking the Olympics to a country with one-fifth of the world's population.

"That was the reasoning for awarding the bid to Beijing."

When Beijing was seeking the games, Rogge noted, Chinese officials said the Olympics would help advance social change, including human rights. He called that a "moral engagement" and stressed there was no "contractual promise whatsoever" on human rights in the official host city contract.

"I would definitely ask China to respect this moral engagement," Rogge said, in one of his most pointed comments on the subject.

A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman responded that IOC officials support adhering to the Olympic Charter and "not bringing any irrelevant political factors into the Beijing Olympics."

"I hope the IOC officials will continue to adhere to the principles set by the Olympic charter," Jiang Yu said.

Rogge reported having "very frank and open discussions" with Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao on a range of Olympic issues Wednesday. He declined to elaborate.

Rogge insisted that "a number of important points have been met" on human rights, including a new Chinese law enacted in 2007 that removed many restrictions on foreign journalists. But he said the law had not been fully implemented and he was urging Chinese officials to do so "as soon as possible."

Rogge refused to be drawn on the prospect of top world leaders snubbing the Beijing opening ceremony. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and German Chancellor Angela Merkel will not be attending the opening, and French President Nicolas Sarkozy is considering staying away. U.S. Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton have called on President Bush to boycott the ceremony.

"Politicians have to make their decisions themselves," Rogge said. "The IOC will not intervene in this matter."

Rogge sought to reassure athletes that they are free to express their political opinions — as long as they do so away from official Olympic venues in Beijing.

Rogge said free expression has been enshrined in the Olympic Charter for more than 40 years as a "basic human right." However, the charter also forbids any "demonstration or political, religious or racial propaganda" in any Olympic sites or venues.

"I'm very clear on the fact that athletes have ample opportunities to express themselves without hindrance, but just by respecting the sacred environment of the Olympic village, the Olympic venues the podium and so forth," he said.

Meanwhile, the Dalai Lama said he is willing to support the Beijing Olympics, but China cannot suppress protests in Tibet with violence or tell those calling for more freedom in his homeland "to shut up."

During a stopover in Japan on his way to the United States, the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader strongly denied Chinese allegations he and his followers have been fomenting unrest before the Olympics. He said he has supported China's hosting the Olympics from the start.

"Right from the beginning, we supported the Olympic Games," he told reporters in Japan. "I really feel very sad the government demonizes me. I am just a human; I am not a demon."

The Dalai Lama, who has lived in India since a failed 1959 uprising in Tibet, said he would even like to attend the opening ceremony if the Tibetan crisis is resolved. "If things improve and the Chinese government starts to see things realistically, I personally want to enjoy the big ceremony," he said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 2008olympics; beijing; boycottchina; boycottolympics; china; crisis; ioc; olympics; rogge; tibet
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To: NormsRevenge
The OIC deserves it for giving them the Olympics in the first place.

I recall when they were selecting the city, there were threads all over FR pushing against China getting them.

The only people I feel sorry for are the athletes who have trained for years to take part in them.

21 posted on 04/10/2008 5:45:54 PM PDT by mware (mware...killer of threads.)
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To: river rat

You forgot Rythmic ribbon dancing, equestrian, and other nonsports.


22 posted on 04/10/2008 5:58:58 PM PDT by omega4179 (HUSSEIN)
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To: omega4179
equestrian

Hey - that's a real sport, and actually an old-school Olympic sport! So long as it doesn't involve style points, and it's a legit sport, I say keep it in.

(Yeah, the horse is doing all the work, but that's even better - it displays the supremacy of man over beast. Just don't tell the leftists that run the IOC that...)

23 posted on 04/10/2008 6:33:22 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: NormsRevenge

I love the traditional sports in the olympics, those that are measured, timed, or tallied. The others are acceptable, I suppose, except for the one where girls dance around twirling a stick with crepe paper on it. How that stays and softball gets tossed is beyond me, but track and field, swimming, basketball, etc., are wonderful.

With the politicians would keep their stupid fingers off of it. Any precedent started by Jimmy Carter should be reason enough for any other world leader to think, “One idiot did this a generation ago. Is he really someone I’d like to follow?”


24 posted on 04/10/2008 6:40:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"I've said that it is very easy with hindsight to criticize the decision," he said. "It's easy to say now that this was not a wise and a sound decision."

It is easy to say that now....

and it was easy back then too.

25 posted on 04/10/2008 7:07:43 PM PDT by Condor 63
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To: NormsRevenge

It's notable that the Lefties are all in a wad about Tibet, but there wasn't a peep about Tiananmen after Clinton was elected.

26 posted on 04/10/2008 7:53:41 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Bushwacker777
Wanna make your voice count in protesting Tibet crackdowns? Try boycotting Walmart and any other “Made in China” label.

Not a bad idea.

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27 posted on 04/10/2008 8:58:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Beijing 2008. Olympic Games for murdering regimes.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"But the IOC has weathered many bigger storms."

He dosen't know how much bigger the storm will grow in the next four months.

Already, the head of the committee organizing the torch run in Indonesia said the route will be significantly shortened because of Chinese concerns it might attract pro-Tibet protests.

The relay, scheduled for April 22, was originally planned to follow a 10-mile course in Jakarta, but now it will only travel in the vicinity of the city's main sports stadium, said Sumohadi Marsis, the head of the organizing committee.

Hong Kong Chief Secretary for Administration Henry Tang said officials many tweak the torch relay route to ensure order when the flame arrives April 30. He said 3,000 police will be deployed.


This is ridiculous. They might as well have a virtual torch relay online.
28 posted on 04/10/2008 10:23:29 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Bushwacker777
Try boycotting Walmart and any other “Made in China” label.

I stopped buying at Walmart two months ago because they are pushing bilingualism in their stores.
29 posted on 04/10/2008 10:25:26 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: river rat
My "long time ago" -- reaches all the way back to about A.D. 383 -- the end of the original Olympics, which were open to all free Greek speaking men could participate...

History records how that culture and the Roman culture treated young boys so maybe things haven't changed all that much after all.

Anyway, if things are so screwed up I think it's time to send in Mitt Romney. He put the Olympics back on track before and I think it's high time he work his magic again. ANYTHING to keep his next title from reading VPOTUS.

30 posted on 04/11/2008 4:43:48 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: omega4179

> You forgot Rythmic ribbon dancing, equestrian, and other nonsports.

Aw, mate — agree about the Equestrian (who ever heard of the Horse getting the Gold: he’s the real athlete, the rider is just along for the ride!)

But Rhythmic Ribbon Dancing and Synchronized Swimming and Gymnastics are about the only events not dominated by drug-addicted steroid-pumping androgynous cheats!

They’re about the only events anyone can watch with any conscience — if you can’t have a jolly good competition at least have something pretty to look at ay.

Too bad there’s never a clear winner in these events, and that the medals are decided by thoroughly-corrupted “judges”...

Crikey — I’ll prefer to watch The Rugby and The Cricket and The Netball, and to H3LL with The ChiCom Olympics.


31 posted on 04/11/2008 5:14:00 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Ok. I respect your opinion. But Cricket? I mean that’s a baseball game that goes on for days. I’d be more interested in watching bread mold.


32 posted on 04/11/2008 8:30:11 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: ExSoldier

Try staying on topic. I know something shiny probably flashed in your periphery but this topic has nothing to do with Mitt Romney so keep your slanted opinion to yourself. Thanks


33 posted on 04/11/2008 12:11:52 PM PDT by killermedic ("discipline isnÂ’t reserved for times of combat....only tested there.")
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To: TigersEye

Amen and thank you!

See http://cartoonbox.slate.com/stuartcarlson/

I hope this link works...


34 posted on 04/11/2008 12:16:58 PM PDT by MoreGovLess (If Hillary wins in November, blame Rush!)
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To: killermedic
I know something shiny probably flashed in your periphery but this topic has nothing to do with Mitt Romney so keep your slanted opinion to yourself. Thanks

Is it or is it not a FACT that one of Mitt's best accomplishments is that he was able to put the Olympics from awash in RED ink to smooth sailing in black ink? Fact or fiction? Because I'm not taking a shot at Mitt here. Well, okay just a little bit, for suggesting he not become the veep. If that offends you then I apologize. But seriously, if he could do it once with the Olympics then he should lend a hand again. Face it, the Olympics has become a global corporation and subject to the maladies of the corporate beast. If that beast isn't taken under sharp control then look for the Olympics to become the next ENRON or worse, the next UN. Somebody needs to take it over. Somebody that has a positive track record. If that's not Mitt, then maybe Lee Iococa or maybe Oprah. But somebody with a lot of business sense and high visibility had better step up.

There. Back on topic enough? You'd best try and not make too many assumptions when you suggest somebody is being slanted. Remember what happens when you assume. You make an A$$ out of U & ME In this case: Mostly U!

35 posted on 04/11/2008 12:33:08 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: mware

Indeed. The Beijing Olympics is really the last bit of legacy of former IOC president Juan Antonio Samaranch. Here is the voting and the cities that were the alternative to Beijing. As you can see it wasn’t even close.

1st
round
Beijing 44 Toronto 20 Paris 15 Istanbul 17 Osaka 6

2nd
round
Beijing 56 Toronto 22 Paris 18 Istanbul 9


36 posted on 04/11/2008 1:14:32 PM PDT by xp38
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To: CougarGA7

> Ok. I respect your opinion. But Cricket? I mean that’s a baseball game that goes on for days. I’d be more interested in watching bread mold.

(big grin!) You get it. I’d prefer to watch bread mold than The Olympics.

(The Cricket isn’t too bad. One Day test matches only last a whole day, unlike the full game where they can go for a whole week and still not get a result.)

But The Cricket is a fine game on a hot summer week, where you have nothing better to do than to sit in the sun, drink beer, and watch the test. Which for me is seldom.


37 posted on 04/11/2008 7:40:48 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: MoreGovLess

Oh, that’s too true. It’s going to cost money and effort but I’m not buying Chinese anymore.


38 posted on 04/11/2008 11:50:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Beijing 2008. Olympic Games for murdering regimes.)
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To: river rat

The modern Olympics was established to be a casual and amateur event, not a serious one. It seriously deviated from what it used to be.


39 posted on 04/12/2008 11:13:50 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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