Posted on 04/09/2008 2:47:09 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - What is happening in El Dorado, Texas almost happened here in Utah. ABC 4 News has learned recently that Utah's Attorney General almost launched a raid in Salt Lake against another polygamist group.
Tuesday, ABC 4 asked Attorney General Mark Shurtleff had he ever thought about doing what Texas did, and Shurtleff said, "It occurred to us, we thought about it. I'll tell you with another polygamous sect."
He then confirmed he was talking about the Kingstons.
The Kingstons aren't in the news as much these days, but back in the late 90's the family definitely was.
And Shurtleff now confirms that a year and a half ago, 80 warrants had been issued by the courts and that he was "gearing up" to serve them.
Shurtleff said, "We considered going in a similar, swap type - I guess for lack of a better word - operation into a church meeting and bar the doors and start collecting evidence."
Shurtleff says the plan was to take dozens and dozens of DNA swabs from the Kingston family.
According to the attorney general, the goal of this raid was to try and determine if any acts of incest had been committed.
But in the end, Shurtleff decided against a Texas-style raid.
Although, in talking about it, it almost seems like Utah's Attorney General sometimes wonders...what if?
"We elected not to do that to try and work with their attorney. And, of course, the result of that was all our subjects disappeared, our targets disappeared and we didn't get the warrants served like we hoped to do," said Shurtleff.
Shurtleff suggests the state may still have its eye on the Kingstons.
But he also says leaders of that clan are now believed to be living out of state.
Ironically, Shurtleff was in Texas just a few weeks ago talking about polygamy related issues.
http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=6a13e4b8-d689-41f5-b7ca-9bb04896c1fa
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Shurtleff says the plan was to take dozens and dozens of DNA swabs from the Kingston family.
According to the attorney general, the goal of this raid was to try and determine if any acts of incest had been committed. ‘
Weird, I thought the goal would be to arrest them because they already had evidence.
I guess we need to go to all Churches, bar the doors and get DNA evidence from everyone. Because, there might be criminals there.
Wow.
Swap type? Is that ABC’s inability to know what’s going on, or the AG’s?
No doubt a lot of people in Utah government breathed a sigh of relief that the Kingstons were now someone else's problem.
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They had 80 warrants. Did you read the article? Or do you think the warrants were issued just for fun? Nevermind.
With 80 warrants it wouldn’t have been a Texas style raid. Not unless they had 80 girls calling in that may or may not have been actually at the complex, and 80 suspects that were known to be living in another State and not actually at the complex.
No... Just the child raping cults.
Can't we just move on?
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“Utah Attorney General has 80 warrants, but relies on Kingston attornies. “”We elected not to do that to try and work with their attorney. And, of course, the result of that was all our subjects disappeared, our targets disappeared and we didn’t get the warrants served like we hoped to do,” said Shurtleff.””
Cults ands cultists and they seem to even have their own state.
So? The point is, with 80 warrants, the AG didn’t get the job done, did he? He negotiated with the Kingston attorneys. That makes it all better, right? And the beat goes on.
They weren't going to do such a thing because they don't want the press.
Almost. What a joke.
And the Utah record of half-ass enforcement goes on in the support of child abuse by the Mormon cultists.
It was a snide remark about the “Texas style raid”.
With 80 warrants obtained before the planned raid (instead of 1 to go in and 79 after the fact) yea they should have served them and dealt with the attorneys later.
When someone in Utah referrences “Swap” in the same sentence as polygamy, they are generally talking about Adam Swapp and John Singer and the story of a polygamist compound raid gone bad.
I don’t know if that is the case here.
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=968577&comments=true
In 1979, a long running battle between John Singer and Summit County, over whether Singer should be allowed to educate his children at home, came to a striking climax when Singer was shot and killed by police when he resisted their attempts to arrest him. Singer had refused to accept court judgements that his children needed to be educated in the public schools. He was shot during the attempted arrest when police feared that he would shoot one of them.
In January of 1988, Adam Swapp bombed a Mormon Stake Center in Kamas, Utah in retaliation for the death of his father-in-law, John Singer, who was killed by police nine years earlier. Swapp and his family then proceeded to hold off an army of police officers and federal agents in a 13 day standoff before police finally stormed their cabin and took them into custody following a violent gun battle in which one officer was killed.
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