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Seems to me some of you are out there to protect your LDS brethren, and could give a rats @$$ about the kids being raped in the compound.

To the contrary. If the kids were being raped then the perpetrators might walk because the "law enforcers" didn't give a rats a$$ about the kids either if they had done their job the right way.

Does that describe the situation better?

Seems to me some of you are out there to protect your LDS brethren, and could give a rats @$$ about the kids being raped in the compound.

The LDS brethren would be more likely of being convicted, if proper procedures were adhered to, than if they weren't.

Do you remember the McMartin Preschool mess? The owner and the employees of that daycare center were incarcerated for years, prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and found to have been completely innocent of all charges.

Up front, the public wanted those folks hanged. The charges simply overpowered the public's ability to think rationally about the case. Those charges were so powerful, that it affected daycare center polices far and wide. And then we found out that absolutely nothing bad ever took place.

The charges in this case are very inflamatory. A lot of people are advocating we lop off heads. If this all pans out, I'm going to support very stiff penalites. I don't see justice being defeated because we ask for the laws on the books to be adhered to. In fact I see problems if those laws are not ahered to.

How would you like it if all evidence discovered via the first warrant, was deemed to be inadmissable? That could severely limit the government's ability to prosecute.

Of course no one wants to see the wrong people arrested.

I agree.

PS my neighbor who goes to my church does not live in a cult compound.

We are talking about a farm. You did know that right? When the authorities start using terms like "compound" to describe a farm, your ears should perk up.

Many farms have a house, a barn, a grainery, an equipment building, a garage... does that make them compounds? If so we have a lot of families we thought of as farmers, who are actually compounders.

Your ears should perk up when you start to see inflamitory words being inserted into the descriptions of these incidents. When that starts someone is trying to manipulate the public.

Seems to me some of you are out there to protect your LDS brethren

The FLDS are NOT my LDS brethren. I am protecting US Citizens from illegal search and seizure. I could care less what their religion is.

, and could give a rats @$$ about the kids being raped in the compound.

Yes I do care, but I also care that the authorities get the RIGHT people, and not everyone else just because they happen to be affiliated by religion.

Of course no one wants to see the wrong people arrested.

But it's okay to arrest everyone else in the process who happens to be affiliated with the wrong people in your book?

PS my neighbor who goes to my church does not live in a cult compound.

Yea but how much longer until it doesn't matter if your in a compound or not? Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean you can ignore search and seizure laws, proper warrants, and the Constitution and when dealing with them.

You can let your hatred of the LDS church cloud your judgement all you want. I probably dislike the FLDS church probably more then you dislike the LDS church, but that doesn't change my love for the laws of the land and the Constitution.

Once we start ignoring them for one group, then eventually we start ignoring them for others too.

PS my neighbor who goes to my church does not live in a cult compound.
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According to the Mainstream Media “newspeak”:

Liberal nuts live in “communes”.

Religious nuts live in “compounds”.

(Go figure!)

You really should desist this irrational emotionalism. ALLEGATIONS of child rape is the issue; not demonstrable proof. Last I heard, people are innocent until proven guilty in this country. Furthermore, it is insane to arrest and accuse an entire religious community comprising of over 600 people, and FORCEFULLY REMOVE over 400 children from their families, just because an unidentified girl made charges over the phone.

You are quick to condemn just because these people’s religious beliefs are different than yours.

THINK! What if this happened to you? Would you like it if a girl in your neighborhood made anonymous charges and you and a hundred other families had their children taken away?

Sure, these people had weird religious beliefs. Sure they were polygamists, instead of the Western-society approved monogamy, co-habitation, adultery, threesome, swapping, swinging, transgendered, homosexual, and Muslim polygamous and child-bride sexual relationships. This still doesn’t make the government’s actions right.

Do you doubt if they were anyone else - this NEVER would have happened??? If only they were a homosexual commune ... If only they were Muslim fundamentalists ... If only they were a hippie commune in Oregon ...

Don’t let your religious bias cloud your judgment - today it is these Mormon fundamentalists whose constitutional rights are violated - tomorrow it could be you.

Seems to me some of you are out there to protect your LDS brethren, and could give a rats @$$ about the kids being raped in the compound. Of course no one wants to see the wrong people arrested.

PS my neighbor who goes to my church does not live in a cult compound. Well, I'm not LDS or any kind of Mormon. My concern is that this warrant was supposed to be about one girl who was molested by one man whose identity was supposedly known to the authorities. That man, as it now turns out, does not even live at the Texas ranch, he lives in Arizona.

So now we have a faulty warrant for the arrest of one man that got perverted into a blanket search warrant for numerous private homes, a religious temple, and it has been used to justify the defacto arrests and detentions of 400+ children and several hundred adult women.

Where in the warrant was any of THAT authorized?

And if a vague accusation of rape is enough to void someone's rights then I formally accuse you of molesting an unknown little girl on your ranch in New York City.

See that paragraph above? That's the sum total of the "evidence" being used to detain several hundred people and to, no doubt, start the process of the seizure of their properties.

Now, do you think this is enough to void YOUR rights or is it merely only OTHER people's rights that pose an inconvenience to you?