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Private tollway?
The Midwest City Sun ^ | April 7, 2008 | Eric Bradshaw

Posted on 04/08/2008 10:07:25 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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1 posted on 04/08/2008 10:07:25 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: TxDOT; 1066AD; 185JHP; Abcdefg; Adrastus; Alamo-Girl; antivenom; AprilfromTexas; B4Ranch; B-Chan; ..

Trans-Texas Corridor PING!


2 posted on 04/08/2008 10:08:11 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Big tents stand for little.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BTTT


3 posted on 04/08/2008 10:14:00 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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4 posted on 04/08/2008 10:16:43 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Oklahoma will have to deal with their transportation system as they see fit. If Texas can get the projected vehicles to the OK/LA/NM/AR borders with some reasonable speed and reduce the congestion on Texas highways I’ll be happy.


5 posted on 04/08/2008 10:24:33 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: deport

well,sure,let the foreigners have ‘em,they will drain every penny they can from everyone,then when they are done,we will get pot-holed disaster area’s .If we can’t afford to build and maintain our own roads,what makes anyone think we will be able to afford the tolls on them. Also they are borrowing the money from us,to build these roads,so if after they make all they can,walaa!,they adios and we are left with bad roads and more debt.


6 posted on 04/08/2008 10:39:18 AM PDT by coalman (type to slow to be relevant,but I try)
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Precisely. Because we all know that private enterprises do not maintain their assets! The most efficient provider is the government!


7 posted on 04/08/2008 10:42:28 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Conservative William F. Buckley, a member of the Establishment’s Council on Foreign Relations, the semi-secret and world-government-promoting group.

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8 posted on 04/08/2008 10:46:01 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Rope, Tree & Traitor; Some Assembly Required || Gun Control Means Never Having To Say I Missed You)
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To: coalman
If we can’t afford to build and maintain our own roads, what makes anyone think we will be able to afford the tolls on them.

It's also worth noting that these foreign companies seem to have far more interest in this kind of business venture than American firms.

I suspect most American investors know damn well that buying a toll road is a miserable investment. My prediction is that there won't be a single long-term lease that is executed and carried for more than 20 years by any of these foreign companies.

There are about 40,000 fatalities in auto accidents in this country every year, and every one of them represents what is basically an unlimited liability on the part of a road's "owner." This, I suspect, is what is ultimately going to bankrupt these ventures.

9 posted on 04/08/2008 10:48:51 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: coalman

What’s your solution to the present/future transportation problems that will be coming our way with continued growth?.. We have congestion aplenty here in Texas on some of our major roadways now. They’ll be complete parking lots in a few more years if things are built beginning shortly.


10 posted on 04/08/2008 10:56:43 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: 1rudeboy

in most cases private enterprise is best,but geeshh! we will pay higher tolls,worse road conditions,loan the money to build the roads and we will still pay taxes on fuel,and then perhaps bail the whole thing out later,so its not as simple as a private vs government issue,it more layers of the same old crap!


11 posted on 04/08/2008 11:21:41 AM PDT by coalman (type to slow to be relevant,but I try)
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To: Alberta's Child

Indiana just gave a 75 yr lease on toll road


12 posted on 04/08/2008 11:24:23 AM PDT by coalman (type to slow to be relevant,but I try)
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I understand that. My point was that the company that signed the lease will either sell the lease or be out of business by the end of Year 20.


13 posted on 04/08/2008 11:30:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: deport

I really don’t have a solution,I just think foreign entities controlling roads in America is a bad idea,the interstate highway system is the backbone of our economy,the various states and the fed government get plenty of taxes to build and maintain roads in fuel taxes,highway use taxes,etc,but they use those revenues for everything under the sun,but roads.


14 posted on 04/08/2008 11:32:26 AM PDT by coalman (type to slow to be relevant,but I try)
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To: Alberta's Child

well,I agree with you there


15 posted on 04/08/2008 11:35:58 AM PDT by coalman (type to slow to be relevant,but I try)
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To: Westlander; All
This is how ABSOLUT markets its products in Mexico. Notice how the US South and West has all but disappeared in this version. Another product that puts profits ahead of everything.
16 posted on 04/08/2008 12:38:48 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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Actually they are taking it in the shorts for that idiocy.


17 posted on 04/08/2008 12:42:36 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: coalman

I really don’t have a solution,


Well hurry and come up with one as they are working hard on getting some of this built here in Texas. Kinda like Jerry Clower’s coon hunting story where he told the guy on the ground to just ‘shoot up here amongst us we need some relief’. We need some relief here in Texas in some of our roadway systems and this maybe part of the solution they choose. Contact TXDOT and give them your proposals and they may put you on the payroll.


18 posted on 04/08/2008 12:51:40 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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If there is any relief in congestion, it will only be temporary. Remember, there will be 3 times the vehicles by 2050 according to the OverLords.

How many lanes will be needed then? Who will be able to afford the tolls? (trucker can't now) Facilitating international commerce means no inspection at the border. Good idea? I think not!

19 posted on 04/08/2008 12:53:58 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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“Conservative William F. Buckley, a member of the Establishment’s Council on Foreign Relations, the semi-secret and world-government-promoting group”

For those who don't know, so are; Sen John McCain, W. J. Clinton and George H. W. Bush.

Expect the *drive* for these roads to continue.

20 posted on 04/08/2008 12:57:51 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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