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To: Smokin' Joe
"Their ultimate goal remains a global order. They have to bring down this country first to make that happen, and they are working hard at it."

The difference between our views on this exists in the idea that "the threat is coming from outside via places like Russia and China". I don't think that is the case. That is not to say that Russia and China are completely benign, but I don't think that they are part of this particular game.

I think that international socialism -- like al qaeda -- doesn't have "a country". They aren't outside us, they are globalists who work from within our countries. And they aren't "communists", they are instead wealthy global business cabals who sponsor candidates & platforms in a variety of countries. They are more like Nazis (who were National Socialists) but this group works on an international level to elect candidates who will break down our national borders and the concept of sovereignty, and who willingly incorporate their political platforms into their own. This threat is coming from the elite and elitists, not from some type of "peasant revolution", as was the case in countries which became communist.

The EU is falling in nicely with their ruling elite plans. I also think that militant Muslims breaking down the democratic system from within in the West, also work with their plans.

Regardless, of disagreements, "their goal is totalitarianism" is one on which we'd most likely agree.

18 posted on 04/07/2008 2:52:26 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
But, of course, you are right. The problem is here at home as well.

I concur that totalitarianism is the goal, and by laying the groundwork through obviously flawed domestic and foreign policy and so orchestrating conflict and disaster (more of both still coming), totalitarianism will not be so much imposed upon masses yearning to be free as demanded by huddled wimps who 'just want to feel safe'.

Natural disasters just serve to amplify that, although the only thing which humans can do there is set the stage for a catastrophe through policy and wait for the problem to happen.

Both Parties are infused with those who work toward these totalitarian aims, often through seemingly innocuous 'minor' policy edicts and regulations with the force of law, which is why it seems that no matter who wins an election, the results are pretty much the same.

Even the peasant revolutions of Communism were manipulated and orchestrated from the top down, moreso than even the participants knew, and to the benefit of a few.

Regardless of the label placed on it, or the attempt to clearly attribute it to any political spectrum, the goal is the same: control of the masses and their resources by a few on a global scale.

36 posted on 04/07/2008 9:02:04 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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