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To: Bokababe
But, of course, you are right. The problem is here at home as well.

I concur that totalitarianism is the goal, and by laying the groundwork through obviously flawed domestic and foreign policy and so orchestrating conflict and disaster (more of both still coming), totalitarianism will not be so much imposed upon masses yearning to be free as demanded by huddled wimps who 'just want to feel safe'.

Natural disasters just serve to amplify that, although the only thing which humans can do there is set the stage for a catastrophe through policy and wait for the problem to happen.

Both Parties are infused with those who work toward these totalitarian aims, often through seemingly innocuous 'minor' policy edicts and regulations with the force of law, which is why it seems that no matter who wins an election, the results are pretty much the same.

Even the peasant revolutions of Communism were manipulated and orchestrated from the top down, moreso than even the participants knew, and to the benefit of a few.

Regardless of the label placed on it, or the attempt to clearly attribute it to any political spectrum, the goal is the same: control of the masses and their resources by a few on a global scale.

36 posted on 04/07/2008 9:02:04 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
This time around I don't think that it is just "a struggle between the elite & the masses". There is a variation in the game.

I think that that we have been divided into three groups -- the elite, the middle class and the masses. And the elite have decided that we in the middle class are going to be continually bled to support the elite class and the masses, until we just disappear.

It's not just the masses that are using up our tax dollars demanding social services -- the elite are running many of these "privatized" social services so we are getting them richer, too. The same system works with "wars", too.

Yes, we obviously need to defend our country so I am not suggesting complete pacifism. On the other hand, the more wars we are fighting, the more it enriches the elite who run the war industry. They don't even need our sons anymore, they can just "hire an army" -- and those who run these rent-an-army organizations are also getting rich off it.

We don't know who to be mad at -- the masses living off of us or the elite making sure legislation is passed forcing us to support them. Most of us are angry at the masses "bleeding us dry", but they couldn't do it unless the elite were spurring on this legislation to tie us down.

To take this shell game with our tax dollars one step further, this isn't just happening on a national level, it's happening on an international level; "nation-building" overseas, foreign aid, the UN.

And to bring it back around to the subject of this thread, Kosovo is a perfect example of the US taxpayer getting bilked by the elite.

NATO and $6 billion worth of weaponry and arms to bomb the heck out of Serbia for 78 straight days to stop a non-existent "genocide"; then $Millions more to build Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo -- a permanent US base built right after the war by a Haliburton subsidiary; $Millions more for US, UN and NATO troops occupying Kosovo for the last 9 years; a sell off of Kosovo's (Serbia's conquered) mining and energy assets to elites like George Soros; $6Billion in "nation-building" funds that have yielded zero results (in short, the money has just disappeared through the cracks). And how did any of this benefit you or I, Joe Average American? It didn't. It wasn't supposed to. Remember it was categorized as "humanitarian". "Humanitarian" is double-speak for "rape, pillage and plunder to get the elite richer". Our intervention caused far more death and destruction than happened before we got involved. But the elite made money off of it, so it was "good and humanitarian".

Now, we are left with "an independent Kosovo" -- an economically nonviable basket case that has always been on the dole for $millions every year, and likely always will be -- and you and are forced to support it.

Some think that US taxpayers are just going to get fed up and revolt. I don't think so -- because there are now too many people whose livelihoods are wrapped up in government or working for for government-dependent industries. Meanwhile, being at war, we accept that our freedoms are somewhat "temporarily" curtailed, but what if it isn't "temporary"? What if it is just the beginning?

I am fully aware that this scenario sounds "paranoid" -- but what if it isn't?

41 posted on 04/08/2008 10:15:54 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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