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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)
Go San Angelo ^ | 5 April 08 | Paul A. Anthony

Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.

The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.

The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.

The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.

Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.

“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”

Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.

Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.

“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”

Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.

Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.

The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.

“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”

The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.

The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.

Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.

“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.

Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.

No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.

Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.

“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cult; flds; jeffs; lds; lyingfreepers; mormon; mormonism; pitcairnisland; pologamy; polygamy; romney; soapoperaresty; warrenjeffs
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To: Elsiejay
However, I am not prepared therefore to conclude that God approved, although admittedly the prophets claiming to be his messengers did not condemn these customs.

1 Kings 11
1. King Solomon, however, loved many foreign women besides Pharaoh's daughter--Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians and Hittites.
2. They were from nations about which the LORD had told the Israelites, "You must not intermarry with them, because they will surely turn your hearts after their gods." Nevertheless, Solomon held fast to them in love.
3. He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray.

921 posted on 04/07/2008 12:47:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: McCoMo

Show me where I criticized a misspelling. You are confusing my message with someone else’s, for effect; it’s not working.


922 posted on 04/07/2008 12:48:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter.—WChurchill)
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To: bonfire

It seems to me that, while I disagree with doctrines of both, that the FLDS is at least more worthy of respect than the LDS in that regard. After all, the FLDS are living according to the beliefs they espose. The official LDS church is preaching a doctrine, while not living it. I thought they had a word for that.. maybe.. hypocrisy?


923 posted on 04/07/2008 12:49:59 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: dmz
He does appear to be obsessed with the subject. He's been talking about it for over 24 hrs.
924 posted on 04/07/2008 12:50:40 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I know I should not ask but you are trying to make some scarcastic point towards the LDS but really don’t quite understand what some FMer is telling you!

And here we have a #15

 

  
                       Standard LDS responses to data put to them:
 

Shorthand

Reference:

1. How you interpret it is wrong...

(Need a source)

2. You are too ignorant to really understand it because you are not a member....

(Need a source)

3. You're not qualified to judge because you're no LONGER a member...

(Need a source)

4. You are just a bigot for bringing the whole ugly truth to light ...

(Need a source)

5. So’s yer Mama!

(Need a source)

6. Laugh it all off and post some silly image.

(Need a source)

7. Jump down the rabbit hole; Alice!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1982682/posts?page=683#683

8. Bait & Switch

(Need a source)

9. The OTHER 'half' of the truth is what we are avoiding.

(Need a source)

10. "I Know It When I See It"

(Need a source)

11. Hand waving...

(Need a source)

12. YOU play defense for a while.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1982682/posts?page=944#944

13. HEE Hee hee... let's get the Calvinists and the Armenians fighting!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1994515/posts?page=15#15

14. GREAT FUN! Let's get the Catholics and the Protestants fighting!

(Need a source)

15. Huh? Did you say something?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1997522/posts?page=843#843

16. If I repeat this enough times some folks will be fooled into thinking it's true.

(Need a source)

17. Playing dumb.

(Need a source)

18. Refusing to answer because your ATTITUDE offends them.

(Need a source)

19. (Let's see if they'll fall for the 'Defend a freak' ploy.)

(Need a source)

20. And the MOST used...  IGNORE what they posted and answer the question that SHOULD have been asked.

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=UMJvqBq_Qa8


925 posted on 04/07/2008 12:52:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bonfire

Former Member (lds) I think...

[only CURRENT members tell the Truth. Any others are calimed to be liars.]


926 posted on 04/07/2008 12:53:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bonfire
huh? How can I be the Freep Mail?

PRIVATE REPLY

927 posted on 04/07/2008 12:54:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
the more you talk the more it reveals your wicked soul...
928 posted on 04/07/2008 12:55:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Albion Wilde

Another good example of distorting the meaning of someones words. I did not say you were criticizing spelling. I said you are using a similar tactic, which has the same intent. You are not criticizing spelling... you are criticizing the use of caps on selected words as a means to give emphasis. Both have equal validity.. which is none.

Now I see why it is that you do not address the issue of distorting the clear meaning of someones post.. since it is a tactic you engage in yourself.

Want to try again? Or do you want to let the thread continue on the real topic and hope that maybe people will forget the fact that you are making a fool of yourself?

Personally, I hope you keep it up. I am personally finding it very amusing. Kinda like watching a child try to act like a grown-up, or a dyke try to pretend she is a man. Nobody is fooled except the person doing the acting.


929 posted on 04/07/2008 12:55:49 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: McCoMo
I read that last post, and virtually every sentence is impossible to figure out what you are trying to say.

Why waste your time trying to?? ;^)

All your base are belong to us!

930 posted on 04/07/2008 12:56:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: zeugma
I seriously doubt the press will take the time to follow up on this beyond reprinting the press releases of those govt. folks involved.

Yep. Retractions do not sell papers or commercial spots. Splashy headlines do.

931 posted on 04/07/2008 12:56:55 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Elsie

Yeah, I know it is a waste of time for the most part... but every once in a while there IS a coherent sentence from her. Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day.


932 posted on 04/07/2008 1:00:17 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: McCoMo
 
But when I do it to particular words, it is to give emphasis only.
 
I would do with italics or underlining, or bold type, if I knew how to do so on this forum.
 
 
This way...
 
 

But when I do it to<I> particular</I> words, it is to give emphasis only
<P>
I would do with italics or<U> underlining</U>, or <B>bold</B> type, if I knew how to do so on this forum
 
 
 
 
(And...  a freebie!)
 

<FONT color=red>This way...</FONT>

933 posted on 04/07/2008 1:01:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

My power wish is for the girl to make it out of this alive.

My wish for CPS or the officals is that they conduct themselves well within the law. If they do and can bust the folks, so much the better.


934 posted on 04/07/2008 1:02:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: TLI
We could be looking at a case of regional-phobia on the part of the local pops about "those people" living in their area.

Uh...

...I don't think there ARE any!

Just the bozo's living out there!

935 posted on 04/07/2008 1:03:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Thank you Elsie. Rather than simply criticizing you give a solution. Anyone can criticize.. it takes a bit more intellect to supply a solution. Of course he will probably not thank you for it, since giving me that info will eliminate his ability to use criticism of my typing style as a means to marginalize my speech.
936 posted on 04/07/2008 1:05:35 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Wouldn’t this fall into “Making it Personal”?

Well...
It IS revealing!

937 posted on 04/07/2008 1:05:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
You be better not pose as something you never were!


938 posted on 04/07/2008 1:07:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
You might not be able to change that but at least you could have generate charm...

If you can't; you're lost.

939 posted on 04/07/2008 1:09:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bonfire

You are just trying to mock me with this evil FLDS and when you do this you stir up anger towards you from me for even trying to put the two things togather.

I know Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and every thing that minds like yours who can not understand always tries to reduce things you have not taken the time to study read and ponder and pray over, so many here just take this to some awful place so you can feel justified!

That is being wicked and unkind!

There is no US vs THEM, there is only more truth and understanding.


940 posted on 04/07/2008 1:10:46 PM PDT by restornu (Man inhumanity to man)
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