Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot
Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.
The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.
The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.
The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.
Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.
“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”
Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.
Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.
“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”
Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.
Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.
The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.
“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”
The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.
The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.
Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.
“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.
Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.
No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.
Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.
“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”
What was wrong with PRESBYTERIANISM???
all that you posted is for 1st hundred years AD and has nothing to do with the 1800’s!
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Oh yes it does...
Great preachers got millions saved during the 1800’s using the same Bible...
Baptist, Methodist, Anglican, etc...
Oh O..Presbytarian preachers also...
Really ???????????????
But no mormons...
Cause mormons dont have preachers...
And if they did they wouldnt use the Bible...
And they dont get people saved...
Oh!!
It was TRANSLATED CORRECTLY; you guys just CHOOSE to IGNORE it!
Okay then - why didn't you say that LONG ago!!?
LOL
Obviously, Gentile, you missed the EXPIRATION date on YOUR bible!
Here's a short list of those under the Abraham covenant that practiced it and raise up seed to the Lord.
Abraham
Issac
Jacob
Hosea
Esau
Caleb
Manasseh
David
Solomon
Saul
Simeon
Zedekiah
That's a small list. Too bad that so many of these were Holy men and they were just committing adultery huh. Too bad that the promises of the proliferation of Abraham's seed isn't a reason they did this./sarc
Besides the D&C references you quote, you conveniently left out the Manifesto, 50 years later. It's also in our scriptures.
Let me remind you of another reference in the Book of Mormon. take careful note of verse 30:
Jacob 2:
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
Obviously, Gentile, you missed the EXPIRATION date on YOUR Bible!
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ROFLMBO
Um, perhaps you would teach us which of the patriarchs took other men’s wives while the other men were still alive and married to the women taken?... Like your peepstone prophet, Joe Smith did on several occasions (11 times, if memory serves). It really is educational seeing you defend adultery in such an oblique fashion. Were there footnotes for escape clauses at the bottom of the tablets of stone, 7?
John 17: 11, 21-22
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
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21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
And that addresses you defense of Joe Smith’s adultery how?
No one is demanding prophets, it’s been promised, several times in the scriptures. God’s promises are sure.
But, since you bring up pride and hubris, it reminds me of one of the greatest sermons giving my a modern prophet of God. It’s called “Beware of Pride” I hope you will read it, it has helped me in my life. Would that we all could hearken to these words more.
How many people in Texas government and law enforcement, and social services are involved in this conspiracy to manipulate a national election, and do you think that they will succeed in keeping this secret forever, or will it be revealed?
HUH?
The poster I was asking the question of, believes this is all a conspiracy to keep Mitt Romney from being vice-president.
It’s looking like they really believe there is a girl and are going to tear the place apart to find her.
John Chapter 17 is the prayer that Jesus prayed just before Judus betrayed him...
Right here He prayed for me..
Jhn 17:20 ¶ Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
You missed a few...
Jhn 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
Jhn 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
Jhn 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Jhn 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Jhn 17:6 ¶ I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
Jhn 17:7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
Jhn 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received [them], and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
Jhn 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
Jhn 17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
Jhn 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are].
Jhn 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
Jhn 17:13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
Jhn 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Jhn 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
Jhn 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Jhn 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Jhn 17:18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
Jhn 17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Jhn 17:20 ¶ Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
Jhn 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
Jhn 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Jhn 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Jhn 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
Jhn 17:25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
Jhn 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare [it]: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them. John 17:1-26
I want to know the last book because if it isn’t Revelations how do you get past that don’t add or take away part?
Who says there are any? The bible does.
Ephesians 4:
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Why does Paul tell us that we need prophets and apostles in order to come into the unity of the faith and not be tossed about by every wind of doctrine? (30 thousand plus different Christian denominations) Jesus had been ressurected and ascended long before he wrote to the Ephesians. Why would he say this?
And why does the Book of Revelations mention prophets so much. John wrote about the last days, that is our day. Why are prophets mentioned there if there aren't supposed to be any?
Texas law was changed in 2005, raising the minimum legal age of marriage from 14 to 16.
On the lighter side, that link is to the tiny little local newspaper, can you imagine what this is like for them, I bet that they are all working overtime.
Seriously, I hope those jackhammers are only to look for guns, or gold, or something else material.
I want to know the last book because if it isn’t Revelations how do you get past that don’t add or take away part?
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Revelations IS the last book, Grasshopper...
:)
I think there’s a law called...
Dont ask...Dont tell..
that applies here with the mormons...
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