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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)
Go San Angelo ^ | 5 April 08 | Paul A. Anthony

Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.

The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.

The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.

The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.

Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.

“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”

Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.

Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.

“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”

Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.

Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.

The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.

“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”

The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.

The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.

Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.

“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.

Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.

No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.

Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.

“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cult; flds; jeffs; lds; lyingfreepers; mormon; mormonism; pitcairnisland; pologamy; polygamy; romney; soapoperaresty; warrenjeffs
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To: greyfoxx39; MHGinTN; JRochelle; sevenbak; P-Marlowe; aMorePerfectUnion; McCoMo; Elsie; ...
...it's interesting that they [Mormons] deny the LDS practice polygamy, and here they are on all the polygamy threads defending it. The more they defend it, the more folks are reminded of their own polygamous history. If I were still mormon, I'd stay far away from polygamy in any form. [greyfoxx39]

Well, I think one reason why is there's a "love-hate" relationship by LDS with polygamy. The "hate" part is...

...the reputation it emits;

...the reminder that their ancestors were part of an overt law-breaking sub-culture--often using intentional deception in the 1880s, 1890s, and 1900s to continue its practice;

...the overt linkage it establishes with the fLDS;

...and the eternal light it shines on a part of their "Scripture" (D&C 132)-- a part's neon light which was supposed to have been turned off & rendered moot in 1890--but hasn't been.

Contemporary Mormons' "love" affair with polygamy is that they believe most or all of those 19th century & early 20th century LDS polygamists are still alive & are still practicing polygamy in the celestial kingdom...plus any contemporary LDS who were serially married to women & who were sealed to each in the temple "for eternity" would likewise, under this belief, be eternal polygamists!!! [There's just no escaping polygamy for the mainstream Mormon church!!!]

Look at how Mitt Romney was "Poster Boy" for exemplifying this "love-hate" relationship with polygamy. On the one hand, his great-grandfather (not great-great grandfather as he was quoted below), was a polygamous man who married his fifth wife 7 years after the LDS "prophet" publicly said, "No more new plural marriages." So how did Mitt respond to CBS last year on the campaign trail? (He said polygamy was "awful"):

"I have a great-great grandfather. They were trying to build a generation out there in the desert and so he took additional wives as he was told to do," Romney...said..."And I must admit I can't imagine anything more awful than polygamy."

The "love" part, of course, comes, in that who can fail to stop loving their family & relatives?

But the "love-hate" relationship of polygamy is inherent in the very core of the practice. Joseph Smith's 14-year-old plural wife, Helen Mar Kimball, said at first she "hated" polygamy. It was often the case that the earlier wives would resent the add-on wives. It locked the ugly reality of jealousy into the very nature of the relationship!

Take a look at Romney's great-grandfather, Miles Park Romney, who took his 5th wife, Millie Eyring Snow, in 1897 at the age of 54. According to an author whose ancestors were polygamists, "Millie Snow was a widow of Erastus Snow, had considerable monehy, and was resented by first four wives because of husband's attention of her." (Solemn Covenant, B. Carmon Hardy, appendix)

Imagine being the women marrying Miles Park Romney...Hannah, who is his same age, 19...but then 5 years later comes Caroline, age 21...then 6 years later comes Cathrine--she's 18, Miles is 30...then 4 years later is Annie--she's 18 or 19, Miles is 34. Then they all get established as a clan for 20 years--each of the 4 wives bearing Miles babies--only for yet a fifth (wealthy)wife to enter the scene & capture all this attention from the household patriarch.

BTW, like father, like son...one of Romney's sons was Miles Archibald Romney, who married all 3 of his plural wives after the manifesto which supposedly "halted" polygamy (1898, 1902, 1909). These were the "add-on" wives to his first wife, who Miles Archibald Romney married when she was 16 (maybe 15).

1,101 posted on 04/07/2008 6:45:57 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: nomorelurker

Is that true, all the women and children have been removed? The last I heard they were still trying to search the place but that was days ago. FR is the source of 99% of my news so perhaps this is general knowledge.


1,102 posted on 04/07/2008 6:56:14 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Tennessee Nana

Someone give you a refresher course?

You reallt are not to sure yourself I see it in your post, but so long as it isnt’ LDS you will believe anything someone else tells you!

to me that is luke warm!


1,103 posted on 04/07/2008 7:00:29 PM PDT by restornu (Man inhumanity to man)
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To: MHGinTN

MHGinTN
To: restornu
Take a read through Matthew chapter seven.

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You point is?


1,104 posted on 04/07/2008 7:04:18 PM PDT by restornu (Man inhumanity to man)
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To: ladyjane

No I do not know if they removed all women and children. I have just seen the news reports showing bus loads of women and girls being taken away “for interviewing’ whatever that is.


1,105 posted on 04/07/2008 7:04:53 PM PDT by nomorelurker (keep flogging them till morale improves)
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To: restornu

The topic of false prophets ...


1,106 posted on 04/07/2008 7:05:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: restornu

We believe in the Father, Son and Holy Ghost they are one in mind!

Roman 15
6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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No, you dont believe in the Trinity...

And that scripture only mentions God the Father and God the Son...

That scripture is not about the Triune God being “one in mind”


1,107 posted on 04/07/2008 7:10:40 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: MHGinTN

You really should know for yourself so far I have not hear any of you telling me how you can discern a good one for your selves.

You like to talk about the Holy Ghost but refuse to trust yourselves if that is him or not!


1,108 posted on 04/07/2008 7:12:08 PM PDT by restornu (Man inhumanity to man)
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To: restornu

Someone give you a refresher course?
______________________________________

Dont need a refresher course

The Holy Spirit already told me that the mormon cult is not of God...

And that God believes in the Trinity...

And that’s why it’s in the Bible...


1,109 posted on 04/07/2008 7:19:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu
Elise is my shadow no matter what I post or do he is there to mock me and you want me to take him seriously.

HA ha!

Joseph Smith and his two angels of light mock you; my dear!

1,110 posted on 04/07/2008 7:26:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
Why don't you read what Jesus told Joseph... Why can't ANY of you Mormons just TELL a person?

Is it THAT arcane??

1,111 posted on 04/07/2008 7:27:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: McCoMo
LOL, that is an amazing case of circular logic. Joseph Smith is telling the truth because Joseph Smiths writings say so.


1,112 posted on 04/07/2008 7:29:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
And if I hated to quote from the bible, why do I do it so often?

I guess I erred when I said HATE.

It looks like IGNORE or POOH-POOH would have been a better match.

1,113 posted on 04/07/2008 7:30:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
 

What about other prophets such as Moses, when they receive revelations from the Lord?

Don’t they too say the samething?

 

Evidently St. PAUL didn't say anything worthwhile.....

 


2 Corinthians 11:12-15
 12.  And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
 13.  For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
 15.  It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
 

 
Galatians 1:6-9
 6.  I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
 7.  which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
 9.  As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
 

 
Ephesians 2:1-2
   As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,  in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.

1,114 posted on 04/07/2008 7:33:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I quoted them word for word...

You vile GENTILE!!!

How many times have you been TOLD not to DO that???

--MormonDude(Yer startin' to get me RILED!)

1,115 posted on 04/07/2008 7:35:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
And even if we weren't, God has led away, from time to time, branches of his chosen people who are of the tribes of Israel.

Yeah... sure...

1,116 posted on 04/07/2008 7:36:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Want to “explain” the meaning of this one ???

Sure!!

That ain't SCRIPTURE!!

Who CARES what some bozo has said if it ain't SCRIPTURE!!

Are you trying to tell us what we BELIEVE again; Gentile?

--MormonDude(HMmmm???)

1,117 posted on 04/07/2008 7:38:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
We call it the Godhead, 3 distinct members of the Godhead.

TWO of which have PHYSICAL bodies!

1,118 posted on 04/07/2008 7:39:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
Who cares. He’s a bishop, there are literarily tens of thousands of them. They do not set doctrine for the church.

SEE!!!

1,119 posted on 04/07/2008 7:40:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
We all know there are false ones, but who do you think are the real ones?

But NONE of them has EVER show his face around any of OUR Temples!!!

--MormonDude(We are too holy for them to abide!)

1,120 posted on 04/07/2008 7:41:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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