Posted on 04/05/2008 7:20:18 PM PDT by george76
Members of a British Muslim terrorist cell discussed taking their wives and children on suicide missions to blow up transatlantic jets, a jury heard yesterday.
The ringleader, Abdulla Ahmed Ali, was bugged by police talking about whether to bring his baby son but said his wife "would not agree to it".
Umar Islam, however, said his wife might join the plot if it were a "significant operation".
Six of the eight-strong gang each made "chilling" suicide videos expressing the desire to wreak "death and destruction" against the West and "Kuffar", or non-believers.
They were intended to serve as taunts from beyond the grave if their horrifying plot had succeeded...
The men wore western suits and blank expressions in the dock of Woolwich Crown Court, South-East London, as they watched their videos in which they were dressed in Islamic garb.
The jury heard that police recorded a conversation between Islam and Ali at the bomb factory, where the two discussed taking their children on their suicide mission.
Referring to a train bombing where a man wanted to take his child, Ali said: "That's why he wanted to take his kid on the train with him. Shake them up.
"Should I take my lot on? I know my wife would not agree to it."
Islam told Ali that his wife found his own "martyrdom" script in his house after it fell out his pocket.
"I was hoping she didn't read it and then she goes, 'I read that thing'.
She goes, 'Is that what I think it is?'
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Why does it take 20 months to put these scum on trial? Even if they’re convicted, what kind of sentence will they get? A century ago, a trial would have been conducted withn six months, and they would have been promptly executed after their convictions.
I’m seeing six guys I’d never allow on the plane if I could profile.
Thanks for posting the pictures. it proves profiling does not work in this matter. Only self-deluding, ignorant fools would believe they could pick these guys out of the thousands who fly every day.
One could easily pass for your average black man.
Several of the others could easily be mistaken for hispanics.
Don’t forget, many times they shave their beards before such missions to prevent profiling.
Random searches, behavior profiling and watch lists are the logical means to stop these idiots if your intelligence services don’t detect them first.
Our media and all of our liberals have mindlessly slipped back into pre-9/11 thinking. They’re not even concerned about this satanic terrorist plot and all that it signifies. They will play ostrich until another major plot is pulled off and then they will shriek like little children.
Since the MSM doesn’t really care about anyone else’s citizens (and barely about ours sometimes) they ought to contemplate the fact that on any BA flight from London to the USA a substantial % of the passengers will be Americans, so if this plot had come off and blown up 8 planes it would have killed a few hundred Americans, not just those unlucky furriners.
Don’t worry, the real outrage will be the absolute joke that the sentences will be.
This garbage isn’t fit to walk the earth with any other living thing.
Couldn’t agree more. Was also interesting to read how they were going to pack porn mags and condoms in their carry on bags along with fruit drinks to cover for the fruit drinks which were really the bombs. Just your average member of the ROP, move along, nothing to see here. Thank God they were caught. This info should be on the news 24/7 IMHO.
I’m going with 6 months in jail, with credit for time served in remand, and a personal apology from Prince Philip.
What’s the high/low?
his wife found his own “martyrdom” script in his house after it fell out his pocket.
LOL! What a boob. Absolutely feckless.
I would say that he must be a democrat, but its the wrong country.
Could not agree less.
>Only self-deluding, ignorant fools would believe they could pick these guys out of the thousands who fly every day.
Only self-deluding, ignorant fools would believe that one could not pick these guys out of the thousands who fly every day.
Profiling is useful.
Anti-Osama-Obama Sarcasm TorpedoTM ARMED. FIRE!!
You mean Barack Hussein Obama?
Would he publicly convert to Islam and pressure the V.P. to do the same; and then would he fire the Secret Service and import members of Farrakhan's organization to fill that role?
Cheers!
Jihad repellent.
Cheers!
The only way to do this is to force everyone to rub a strip of bacon before boarding a plane.
Some try to fight back. They need help
http://www.katyislamicassociation.net/
Disneyland vacation, Islam style.
You obviously think you are smarter than you really are, believing you can pick these guys out from the thousands that fly every day.
These terrorists have looked Arabic, Jewish, Black, White, Hispanic and Indian. I can show you pictures of people who you would never pick for your sacred profiling that have carried out suicide attacks.
I would really like to know your "system" and how it would work.
Profiling is great when you are looking for a specific individual or some group with unique characteristics. Muslim terrorists cannot be profiled because they have no single characteristic that sets them apart.
Searching granny is prudent. See, if we use your 'superior' method, people will die. I will explain.
Terrorists have used dupes in the past. As someone who flew over 140 flights last year, I know who I would choose as my dupes....the elderly.
There are many elderly travelers who are so medicated that they are oblivious to what is happening around them. I have watched them leave bags unattended in a crowded terminal. I have watched them as they offered others to look inside their bags who had no authority to do so. I have watched some elderly take bags that look similar to their own by mistake.
So, if you have a problem with searching granny, too bad, pal....I'm not gonna leave my kids orphaned becuase you THINK you know better.
Gee and just recently Bonnie Prince Charles wants is title to be changed by inserting Keeper of The Faiths, instead Keeper of The Faith. Oh well he is keeping 99% of the rest, what harm can that little change do?
Cool, Ted Turner said just last week there are too many people breathing and using up valuable resources.
“I have less loathing for the insects that infest dead animals than I do for the members of the ROP. Disgusting.”
But.......but.........but.........once Iraq is a bastion of freedom, democracy, and human rights, the whole islamic world is going to realize what a mistake they’ve been making this past 1400 years, and forget all that silly stuff about muhammad, the Koran, etc .
And........and........and.........democracy is contagious. All the bigger enemies currently state sponsors of terrorism like Iran, Syria, and Saudi.......they’ll all just give up their power and wealth and we’ll finally have victory.
The members of the ROP will surely be neighborly then and will stop wanting to send their kids out to kill for sharia and Allah. I wish they could all be Iraqi Muslims (aka........the good ones worthy of sacrificing our own people for as opposed to bombing the hell out of their cities and letting them pick up themselves from the rubble, left with a memo that if we have to come back for Al Qaeda it will be in the form of missiles dropped wherever we suspect they are).
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