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One or two observations.

With a EE degree you must be aware that our public school system is broken, and most likely broken beyond repair. Yes, there are a few good schools left, but not many.

Witness our standing in the world as it pertains to our HS graduates abilities and knowledge. The facts are undeniable except to the most recalcitrant.

Every day, right here on FR, there are a half dozen to a dozen examples of various schools around the country that are completely broken and out of control. From giving little girls birth control without parental consent, to sexual abuse by teachers, lack of standards for teachers and kids, and just plain out of control classes, those schools hurt millions of school kids every year.

You mentioned that your kids have the moral strength to fight off the attempts at liberal indoctrination. Well, so what? What about all of those hundreds of OTHER kids in your school? Who is looking out for them? In most cases.......nobody. Why should they be sacrificed on the alter of Public School?

Is that fair to them? And how many millions more should be sacrificed? And, WHOSE kids? Just the other kids, not yours?

I could go on, but this whole system is so broken that only a radical overhaul is going to fix it.

Home schoolers are the future of our country. Public schoolers may play a part too, but that’s by exception, as there is a mountain of proof that most of them are attending schools that don’t care about them.

Regarding liberal indoctrination: I do think we are headed on the path the UK has already taken; the path where you cannot speak anything but the standard politically correct conclusions of the hour.

I have a feeling that the ‘new UK’ is at least partially a result of far left wing teachers taking over the school systems and promoting their beliefs.

I hear that the “Tories” often get a lot of flack over there if they dare to mention any of their own ideas. I hope i did not come across like i did not believe indoctrination exists in schools because I am sure it does.

However, I still believe that parents can effectively set their kids straight. Who do you put more stock in your parents or a school teacher? For me the answer was always my parents and therefore I did not become a democrat despite going to public school in new england.

I don’t think the school system should be given a conservative bias either. I believe history classes should just report the honest facts.

I remember how we did alot of units on hiroshima in school. I was truly horrified and it made me very sad. They never stressed pearl harbor though; it was presented as if hiroshima was an unprovoked act of aggression. The story is unbalanced if you stress just one part.

Despite this, I still feel like most of my teachers did not push an agenda too strongly. Most of them were professional in that regard. Amazingly my US government teacher was a conservative and would tell us his opinion on things. So you cannot lump all public school teachers into one ‘snarling mass of liberal vipers” either

I don't have an EE degree (my husband does, he's an engineer). Sorry if I didn't make that clear. Calc and physics aren't my areas of expertise. As a part time and former full time public school teacher, I'm more than aware that our public school system is broken and sucks. It's been so dumbed down, it infuriates me. However, not every public school district is like Philly or some of the districts I read about here. Our public high school district is excellent, imo. Witness our standing in the world as it pertains to our HS graduates abilities and knowledge. The facts are undeniable except to the most recalcitrant. hope this works, I really do suck at this. I do agree. Our grade and middle schools no longer teach science, at least not the science I learned. Heh, math, the same in many cases. It's all about not hurting the poor child's feelings anymore. Ticks me off. Every day, right here on FR, there are a half dozen to a dozen examples of various schools around the country that are completely broken and out of control. From giving little girls birth control without parental consent, to sexual abuse by teachers, lack of standards for teachers and kids, and just plain out of control classes, those schools hurt millions of school kids every year. I agree. However, just like all the crap on the news, this is not happening everywhere. We don't hear the success stories concerning anything, from the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, to the good cops (and yes they exist because I come from a family of them who are vocal 2nd A supporters). I can't speak for any school that my kids don't attend. Well, so what? so what? I'm not responsible for every person or every kid but I am responsible for mine. It's my job as a parent. And, as a taxpayer, I'm responsible for where my taxes go, voting, fighting the system. But we can't raise all these kids. They shouldn't be sacrificed to the ALTAR of public schools but where the hell are they supposed to go? Do you really think if we eliminate public education that most of these kids will get any education at all? They certainly won't from the ghettos in philly, from their drug addicted parents who don't give a damn about them. Even our k-8 district is decent, affluent area. But as a taxpayer, and someone who cares, I do fight them too. Our public k-8 district is being sued by the ACLU because the taxpayers in this district successfully fought the homo video. Our k-8 BOE election next week is hot! Hopefully, we'll succeed there too and oust the loons (libs). My kids don't go there, why should I care? Well, I care anyway. That's the reason I vote, and canvass, and fight what happens there. Just like my parents, God rest their souls, I parent my kids. I can't parent the world's kids. The problem is far worse than our public schools, it's parents. Far too many parents don't parent their kids anymore and maybe homeschoolers are different. I know many parents who don't parent their kids, be it catholic school kids or public schools kids. I know a couple homeschoolers - probably not the norm, but they SUCK in most things, especially parenting. And then, there's a few who I admire. We probably agree on many things as you seem conservative. I agree that in some areas, our public schools are nothing more than prisons trying to contain the animals (philly comes to mind) and some teachers shouldn't be teaching. And I was taught, life ain't fair. My parents grew up during the Great Depression. My Dad was a WWII vet. They raised good kids. I hope I can do the same. But, I can't parent everyone's kids - that's up to those parents. And my Mom, God rest her soul, taught me that it's all about the home. If the public school system ended tomorrow, we'd survive. I do doubt that most inner city areas would fare as well. As for now, we're taking advantage of our high school district by sending our kids to it - and it ain't free, wanna see my property taxes? lol. We send our kids to k-8 Catholic (and in this area, it's a bit too lib for me but again, it's all about the home).