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To: qam1

Well, all true. Though, having sat in the sun for many hours at a time observing sun spots, I can say that is sufficient to get you sunburn :)

If there is a higher solar activity, then we can easily deduce more atmospheric activities, thus more storms, and from that more lightning strikes, more lightning strikes cause more fires.

This isn’t some wild logic, it’s a fact.

The idea of “global warming” isn’t a BAD idea. The idea that it is caused by people is what is a BAD idea.

Global warming, as well as global cooling takes place on a cyclical basis, as seasons change, and as the Earth itself tilts.

For instance.... Earth has a polar axis tilt. That imaginary line going through the center of the earth from the north pole to the south pole. This is why we see Polaris as our “North Star” right now.

The “wobble” present on the planet will move the North Pole to point at a different place in the sky over time, say, about 25000 years from now, a different star may serve as the north star.

This also serves to change the seasons on the planet as well. Currently our Summer in the northern hemisphere is in the “summer months” or June-August, while in the southern hemisphere this is winter time.

So, ice ages tend to occur when the poles change positions (pointing to another place in the sky) which causes the earth to tilt in a different way than it is now. (At least that’s one theory).

Another theory is that the sun, which is actually traveling in a circle around the outer edge of the Milky Way Galaxy passes periodically through large clouds of dust and debris in the galaxy. This could obscure the sun to a greater or lesser extent causing it to become much colder on the planet than it currently is now.

Man made global warming is really nothing more than a bunch of screaming nonsense, by people who do not particularly understand astrophysics, the solar system, or anything about astronomy and go from bad human memory of “how warm it used to be back when I was kid” - or listen to BAD DATA and make claims that “so much CO2 has caused this problem”... when in fact, they can’t show a “problem”, nor results of so-called Man-made global warming.

What they fail to take into account is the very fact that the SUN is what drives our environment, and without it, there’d be no life at all here. Not even microbes. With the sun, and our cycles we have seasons, and we have cold, and we have heat and we have life.


18 posted on 04/04/2008 12:03:09 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
having sat in the sun for many hours at a time observing sun spots

You obviously have observed reality and know when something is being presented in a false manner for political reasons.

I have no arguments with our last post and it was appreciated.

20 posted on 04/04/2008 12:13:26 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: Rick.Donaldson
If there is a higher solar activity, then we can easily deduce more atmospheric activities, thus more storms, and from that more lightning strikes, more lightning strikes cause more fires. This isn’t some wild logic, it’s a fact.

Interestingly, here's a study confirming this

Solar flares and their impact on potential gradient and air-earth current characteristics at high mountain stations

Recordings of potential gradient and air-earth current in fair-weather conditions were made at high-elevation mountain stations; the latter were generally above the vertical-mixing layer and not disturbed by local sources. Both electrical quantities increased significantly from the day of appearance of a solar flare (or a maximum incidence of flares) till the fourth day after the event. Peak potential gradient and air-earth current exceed the normal levels measured during quiet-sun conditions by 50–60% in terms of averages.............................We may conclude from these results that the total potential between the ground and the upper atmosphere increases for several days after solar flares.

So this link between solar activity & forest fires might not be so crazy after all

The idea of “global warming” isn’t a BAD idea. The idea that it is caused by people is what is a BAD idea. Global warming, as well as global cooling takes place on a cyclical basis, as seasons change, and as the Earth itself tilts....What they fail to take into account is the very fact that the SUN is what drives our environment,

I know Global warming is a scam, my point (Note: there is no GW mentioned in this study) before this thread kind of went off the deep end was that if this study turns out to have something to it and the sun (no matter how indirectly) can effect forest fires then it is ludicrous to believe the sun can't have any effect on the climate as a whole like the alarmist tell us.

23 posted on 04/04/2008 12:34:05 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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