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Fossilized feces found in Oregon suggest earliest human presence in North America
Seattle Times ^ | 02 Apr 2008 | Sandi Doughton

Posted on 04/03/2008 3:34:56 AM PDT by BGHater

Hold the potty humor, please, but archaeologists digging in a dusty cave in Oregon have unearthed fossilized feces that appear to be oldest biological evidence of humans in North America.

The ancient poop dates back 14,300 years. If the results hold up, that means the continent was populated more than 1,000 years before the so-called Clovis culture, long believed to be the first Americans.

"This adds to a growing body of evidence that the human presence in the Americas predates Clovis," said Michael Waters, an anthropologist at Texas A&M University who was not involved in the project.

DNA analysis of the dried excrement shows the people who lived in the caves were closely related to modern Native Americans. Their genetic roots reach across the Bering Strait to Siberia and eastern Asia.

"These are probably the ancestors of some of the Native Americans living in America now," said Eske Willerslev, director of the Centre for Ancient Genetics at the University of Copenhagen. He co-authored the report that appears in today's online Science Express.

The age of the finding also calls into question the theory that people who crossed the Bering Land Bridge to Alaska migrated south through ice-free corridors as glaciers began to break up. Geological evidence suggests the corridors weren't open 14,300 years ago, though the glaciers had pulled back from the coasts.

"People probably came either by boat or maybe even walking along the West Coast," Willerslev said.

Before the Oregon discovery, the oldest human remains in North America were two sets of bones about 13,000 years old from California and Nevada. Kennewick Man, the skeleton found on the banks of the Columbia River in Eastern Washington, dates to 9,400 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: clovis; coprolite; coprolites; dennisjenkins; feces; godsgravesglyphs; human; meadowcroft; oregon; paisleycaves; preclovis; sumnerlakebasin
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To: BGHater
They pooed in their cave and not outside?

"Do NOT go in there..."

21 posted on 04/03/2008 4:42:02 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: BGHater

I guess, back in that day, they didn’t have any of the creepy crawlers that eat that kind of stuff.


22 posted on 04/03/2008 4:51:43 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: RetSignman

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/pg2/2002/0726/photo/pool.jpg

“It’s not so bad.”


23 posted on 04/03/2008 5:11:29 AM PDT by mothball
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To: BGHater

“I told you to go before we left!”


24 posted on 04/03/2008 5:16:49 AM PDT by Adder (hialb)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Each new discovery shows that science really doesn’t know a heck of a lot.

Each discovery shows that science is able to assimilate more evidence as it appears. Unlike religion, which pretends that new knowledge doesn't mean anything at all; the 'facts' have already been decided in dusty old books written by people whose imaginations couldn't have grasped the scientific method...

25 posted on 04/03/2008 5:19:06 AM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: BGHater
The ancient poop dates back 14,300 years.

"Okay Orgk, you can have that pet wolf, BUT ONLY IF YOU PROMISE TO CLEAN UP AFTER IT!"

26 posted on 04/03/2008 5:22:36 AM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: BGHater

It’s time like these that my mind turns to verse....

In days of old
When knights were bold
And Toilets weren’t invented

You laid your load
Upon the road
And walked away contented


27 posted on 04/03/2008 5:23:53 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: BGHater
"People probably came either by boat or maybe even walking along the West Coast," Willerslev said.

With little Ughaghamamut screaming all the way - "Are We There Yet?!?"

28 posted on 04/03/2008 5:28:17 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop wont fit)
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To: BGHater

The American Indian Casino Owners Association will demand return of their ancestors remainas and state any suggestion it was not an “indian” is a hate crime.

They are even pushing to have all human prehistoric human remains delared paleo-”indians”...


29 posted on 04/03/2008 5:34:42 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: BGHater

Speaking of ancient poop........where’s the pic of Helen Thomas?????????


30 posted on 04/03/2008 5:39:56 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: DH

That was her they dug up.


31 posted on 04/03/2008 5:49:04 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: BGHater

I understand that Frank Lautenberg has been vacationing in Oregon recently...


32 posted on 04/03/2008 6:01:25 AM PDT by Brofholdonow
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To: ASA Vet
"DNA analysis of the dried excrement shows the people who lived in the caves were closely related to modern Native Americans."

I think the jury is still out on this statement.

33 posted on 04/03/2008 6:07:24 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: DH
Speaking of which...........


34 posted on 04/03/2008 6:08:40 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The Presidential election is a race to the bottom. Which Party will out stupid the other to lose ?)
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To: BGHater
archaeologists have unearthed fossilized feces

Any pictures ?

35 posted on 04/03/2008 6:17:21 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: BGHater

If it is fossilized, will some demonrat polish it and try to pass it off as...

Nevermind.


36 posted on 04/03/2008 6:22:27 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Energy plan: Build refineries and nuke plants, drill for our oil, mine our coal.)
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To: BGHater; SunkenCiv; blam

“Hold the potty humor, please”

Right! I won’t even slip one through the back door.


37 posted on 04/03/2008 6:28:56 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: BGHater
...archaeologists digging in a dusty cave in Oregon have unearthed fossilized feces that appear to be oldest biological evidence of humans in North America. The ancient poop dates back 14,300 years.

I think this is conclusive evidence that those archaeologists really now their sh_t!

38 posted on 04/03/2008 6:36:14 AM PDT by Ranxerox
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To: OB1kNOb
Speaking of which...........

...and NOW we know what she was doing to elicit such an expression!


39 posted on 04/03/2008 6:41:25 AM PDT by Grut
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To: elder5

“I always knew Oregon was full of poo. Just didn’t know it was old poo.”

Yeah, you nailed it, but it could be you standing knee deep in this cesspool instead of me.


40 posted on 04/03/2008 6:43:54 AM PDT by Birdsbane (If You Are Employed By A Liberal Democrat...Quit!)
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