Attn McCain Apologists: Talk all you want! (Vanity)

I’ve posted there.

Thanks, Jim. It reminded me of what drew me to FR nearly 10 years ago.

Thanks for choosing principle over party. This has never been a pro McCain place. Why start now?

BTTT - and bookmark for future reference.

I am unfamiliar with "strident barbs from McCain supporters." Actually, I would appreciate your finding the posts where "McCain supporters" actually critize you or anyone else.

What you are attempting to do is to exclude from conservativism people that do not agree with your exclusionary criteria. They may disagree with one, two or more of your exclusionary criteria but not all.

Presently, you are now excluding yourself. This is a free country so this is your right.

I would say that all great endeavors (including political) are not based on ad hominem attacks or simple name calling (RINO). What great endeavors do is to achieve a sense of cooperation where possible and the hope of persuasion and additional coming together down the road.

A great people need a great tent. It is also true that being a Republican, conservative or what have you does not mean you should not cooperate with people who differ with you. Taken to its extreme, the failure to compromise always results in a real or defacto civil war. America has a genius for voluntary cooperation and compromise; the only time we really failed we had a Civil War and 700,000 died.

Thank you.

If the Republican Party, as a whole, is about to nominate McCain, can he really be called a RINO? If he's not conservative, maybe the GOP is no longer conservative and it's conservative who are RINOs and should be looking elsewhere. The Falcon Party perhaps?

LOL! That other thread does kinda get under your skin, doesn't it ;)

Yuh know what is ironic, if there had been a national primary day as some on FR have been clamoring for, guess who probably would have won, Guiliani.

True, which is why the GOP should frontload primaries in more conservative states.

Why was there never a McCain truth file at the time when it might have done some good?

I guess you missed this that I posted, literally, 2-3 thousand times starting in Nov. '06?

Free Republic Opinion Poll:
Would you be for or against McCain?
Member Opinion
against 92.4% 2,989
for 7.6% 247

McCain: Hillary Would Be Good President Feb. 2005

How John McCain Threatens the Pro-Life Cause By Douglas Johnson NRLC Legislative Director

More YOUTUBE - McCain On Abortion (UH OH! YouTube Has a Video of Him in 1999)

McCain and Stem Cell Research Round-up

Tom Delay On Faux "McCain Has Done More To Hurt The Party" VIDEO

John McCain: "My Conservative Record" YouTube VIDEO

McCain and 'the Constitution'

John McCain, Jack Kemp and Hugo Chavez.

MORE GUN CONTROL: McCAIN-LIEBERMAN FR April '01

Gun Owners of America on McCain's Record.

GUNS AND SCHOOLS: THE POLITICS (McCain tries to grab guns, 1999)

CITIZENS COMMITTEE URGES JOHN McCAIN TO RETIRE FROM UNITED STATES SENATE
Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA)

John McCain Losing His Cool YouTube video

Vietnam Veterans Against McCain YouTube video

McCain Argues for U.S. Troop Withdrawl from Somalia Mr. Blackhawk Down (YouTube VIDEO)

McCain Group Got Big Cable Donation Breath taking corruption, Senator!

THE PAMPERED POLITICIAN - John McCain Keating 5 and other things. FR Nov. '99

McCain gives nod to Kerry campaign (MAJOR RINO ALERT!) June 2003

MAFIA, EMPRISE, DELAWARE NORTH, DON BOLLES, BRUCE BABBITT, BILL CLINTON...AND JOHN McCAIN?
McCain married into the mob.

The Real McCain

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO"

SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO" Part II

John McCain Is No Hero

John McCain: The Manchurian Candidate

JOHN MCCAIN, WARTS AND ALL

The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides

John McCain's Skeleton Closet

A number of articles on McCain. (some the same as above)

McCain Seeks to Change California Primary

John McCain funded by Soros since 2001

John McCain Gets Soros Cash

McCain/Soros by Rabbi Areyh Spero

McCain-Soros Toppled GOP Candidates Nov. 21, 2006

Soros' "Reform" (an article about Soros‘ instrumental hand in McCain/Feingold)

John McCain: George Soros' Useful Idiot?

Through The Weeds; John McCain, George Soros and the Reform Institute

McCain’s Reform Institute donor list:

Reform Institute greatfully acknowleges Sen. McCain as past Chairman:

McCain's Letter (McCain aligns with Global Enviro activists)

The Turning Point on Global Warming (McCain and Lieberman Op-Ed Alert)

Climate bill sets stage for debate (Sens. McCain, Obama, and Lieberman join forces)

McCain: Global warming is fact, must be addressed [hurl alert]

McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming (NH voter reminder ALERT

EIA's Analysis of the Lieberman-McCain Climate Change Bill Human Events

McCain's Nose-Under-the-Tent Strategy - McCain's "Climate Stewardship Act" (S. 139), co-sponsored with Senator Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.)

Kyoto Through the Back Door? A Debate on the Lieberman –McCain Climate Stewardship Act - Heritage Foundation

Promising Vote on Global Warming - "But Mr. McCain, as we know, does not give up easily. ... He promises to be just as tenacious on this issue."

McCain Is Booed by Labor Activists

Captains of Industry Could Populate McCain Cabinet ( Lieberman Potential Cabinet Member)

McCain Still Disliked by Fiscal Conservatives (Club For Growth)

McCain calls Jeffords' switch lesson for GOP FR May '01

McCain Antics Weary Arizonans in G.O.P. FR June '01

Believe NYT on McCain corruption scandal

McCain Ties to Lobbyists Troublesome - Newsmax Staff

Billboard owner bars ad targeting McCain Viacom refuses anti-Amnesty billboard because it bashes McCain.

McCain may leave Republican Party to fight Bush in 2004 FR July '01

How Bill Kristol ditched conservatism. Great Escape (Gave floundering McCain 2000 campaign a direction.)

McCain may leave Republican Party to fight Bush in 2004
His staff set up policy think-tanks and other groups to lay the ideological foundations for another third-party challenge in the Bull Moose style.

McCain Looked into Caucusing with Democrats

John McCain Goes Left for Money

McCain, Obama Make Deal on Financing

Sens. Snowe, Collins to head Maine exploratory committee for McCain

John Kerry: McCain Approached Me About Joining Dem Ticket in 2004

Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP

McCain denies he was close to quitting GOP

Double Talk Express. McCain in his own words. VIDEO

John McCain's Newt Problem (Infidelity to first wife.)

How Cindy McCain was outed for drug addiction(stole drugs from the American Voluntary Medical Team) (McCain used his influence to cover it up.)

McCain and his Chicom Connections: Posts #17 and #18 by Calpernia

TEN REASONS NOT TO SUPPORT MCCAIN (Free Republic thread from 2000)

McCain Blames Bush For Osama's Escape

McCain Rides to Kerry's Rescue: "John Kerry is Not Weak on Defense" (Today Show alert)

The Real McCain Record Obstacles in the way of conservative support.

McCain Is the Amnesty Candidate

John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS

It depends on the meaning of “never” (McCain's Convenient Memory)

UN Double Talk from Straight Talker McCain (Law of the Sea Treaty)

The Conservative Case Against John McCain In 2008

John McCain: Hypocrite by Mark R. Levin

This Man is Not a Republican (re: McCain) (FR thread - Jan. 2000)

Freeper Alert: Sen. KERRY / Communist Vietnamese Killing Off Christains in Central Highlands... (...with Senator McCAIN (R) in complete agreement with him, is because "Engagement" with Communist Vietnam is better for the people of Vietnam in the long run.)

John McCain armed Kosovo Islamic terrorists

McCAIN AND THE KLA CONNECTION

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McCain says:

"Why don't you shut your political pie hole?"

Stifling the www? Online Freedom of Speech Act (H.R. 1606)

"1606 is needed because federal courts have ordered the Federal Election Commission to regulate "electioneering communications" on the Internet because of the Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform Act (McCain-Feingold). If H.R. 1606 fails to become law, your Web site or blog could be shut down for the 30 days prior to a primary election and the 60 days prior to a general election should you express "electioneering communications."

John McCain, enemy of free speech

Not Child‘s Play [McCain/Schumer bill could effect FR?]

John McCain, you treasonous bastard, I challenge you or any of your traitorous cohorts... (thread by Jim Robinson)

“You are ignorant of the facts, and insulting to me. Nice combination. I await your apology, and your thanks for informing you.”
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Here’s some facts for ya. If you are insulted, that’s your problem. You’re one of the biggest open border shills around here. You’re in the same league as McCain....interpret that any way you like.

This is from Mark Krikorian at Center for Immigration studies. The ignorant and corrupt have elected McCain. You are the only one who knows which category you fit.
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Poll: Voters Unaware of Candidates’
Immigration Positions

McCain Supporters Farthest Off the Mark
WASHINGTON (March 31, 2007) – A new poll using neutral language finds that primary and caucus voters have little knowledge of candidates’ immigration positions. The results also show that voters often do not share their candidate’s position.

For results and tables, go to http://www.cis.org/articles/2008/voter_release_08.html

Among the findings:

# Only 34 percent of McCain voters, 42 percent of Clinton voters, and 52 percent of Obama voters correctly identified their candidate as favoring eventual citizenship for illegal immigrants who meet certain requirements.

# Of McCain voters, 35 percent mistakenly thought he favored enforcement that would cause illegals to return home, another 10 percent thought he wanted mass deportations, and 21 percent didn’t know his position.

# Voters often held different positions from the candidate they supported. Only 31 percent of McCain voters had the same immigration position as he does. For Clinton voters, 45 percent shared her position; 61 percent of Obama voters shared his position.

# This lack of knowledge, coupled with disagreements with their candidates’ positions, makes it very difficult to draw any conclusions about the fact that all three remaining candidates favor legalization for illegal immigrants.

# Whoever wins the presidency will face significant opposition to giving eventual citizenship to illegal immigrants. Just 25 percent of Republican and 50 percent of Democratic primary/caucus voters said they would support such an effort.

# Pro-enforcement voters have a greater intensity of views than supporters of legalization. Among Republicans, almost nine out ten who favored causing illegals to return home said they strongly supported that view; on the other hand, fewer than half of Republicans who backed legalization strongly supported that view.

# This greater intensity also exists among Democrats. Of Democrats who favored causing illegals to return home, more than seven out of ten strongly supported that view; on the other hand, fewer than six out of ten who favored legalization strongly supported that view.

Methodology: The survey of 1,276 persons who voted in a primary or caucus was conducted March 12-13. The survey was conducted by Pulse Opinion Research.

center@cis.org

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Capitol Hill staffers rate their bosses. McCain got no glory from those who work with him.

“Every election year we survey top aides on both sides of the aisle—administrative assistants, press secretaries, legislative directors, and chiefs of committee staffs—to get their up-close and personal, and anonymous, views. While there may be lots of partisan backbiting among congress members, their staffers seem far more capable of putting politics aside and making honest judgments. It wasn’t unusual for aides in both parties to name one of their own as “spineless” or give the “workhorse” nod to someone across the aisle. “

Worst Follower 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

Show Horse 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

Hottest Temper 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.) known to snap at staff when the cameras are off http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/mediapolitics/1666.html

THE McCAIN WAY - ATTACK REPUBLICANS

Defending His Amnesty Bill, “Presidential hopeful John McCain - who has been dogged for years by questions about his volcanic temper - erupted in an angry, profanity-laced tirade at a fellow Republican senator, sources told The Post yesterday. In a heated dispute over immigration-law overhaul, McCain screamed, ‘F— you!’ at Texas Sen. John Cornyn, who had been raising concerns about the legislation. ‘This is chickens—stuff,’ McCain snapped at Cornyn, according to several people in the room off the Senate floor Thursday. ‘You’ve always been against this bill, and you’re just trying to derail it.’” (Charles Hurt, “Raising McCain,” New York Post, 5/19/07)

In 2000, Sen. McCain Ran An Attack Ad Comparing Then-Gov. George W. Bush To Bill Clinton. SEN. MCCAIN: “I guess it was bound to happen. Governor Bush’s campaign is getting desperate, with a negative ad about me. The fact is, I’ll use the surplus money to fix Social Security, cut your taxes and pay down the debt. Governor Bush uses all of the surplus for tax cuts, with not one new penny for Social Security or the debt. His ad twists the truth like Clinton. We’re all pretty tired of that. As president, I’ll be conservative and always tell you the truth. No matter what.” (McCain 2000, Campaign Ad, 2/9/00; www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHoXkCprdL4)

Sen. McCain Repeatedly Called Sen. Pete Domenici (R-NM) nams. “Why can’t McCain win the votes of his own colleagues? To explain, a Republican senator tells this story: at a GOP meeting last fall, McCain erupted out of the blue at the respected Budget Committee chairman, Pete Domenici, saying, ‘Only an a–hole would put together a budget like this.’ Offended, Domenici stood up and gave a dignified, restrained speech about how in all his years in the Senate, through many heated debates, no one had ever called him that. Another senator might have taken the moment to check his temper. But McCain went on: ‘I wouldn’t call you an a–hole unless you really were an a–hole.’ The Republican senator witnessing the scene had considered supporting McCain for president, but changed his mind. ‘I decided,’ the senator told Newsweek, ‘I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.’” (Evan Thomas, et al., “Senator Hothead,” Newsweek, 2/21/00)

Sen. McCain Had A Heated Exchange With Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) And Called Him A “F*cking Jerk.” “Senators are not used to having their intelligence or integrity challenged by another senator. ‘Are you calling me stupid?’ Sen. Chuck Grassley once inquired during a debate with McCain over the fate of the Vietnam MIAs, according to a source who was present. ‘No,’ replied McCain, ‘I’m calling you a f—ing jerk!” (Evan Thomas, et al., “Senator Hothead,” Newsweek, 2/21/00)

In 1995, Sen. McCain Had A “Scuffle” With 92-Year-Old Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-SC) On The Senate Floor. “In January 1995, McCain was midway through an opening statement at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing when chairman Strom Thurmond asked, ‘Is the senator about through?’ McCain glared at Thurmond, thanked him for his ‘courtesy’ (translation: buzz off), and continued on. McCain later confronted Thurmond on the Senate floor. A scuffle ensued, and the two didn’t part friends.” (Harry Jaffe, “Senator Hothead,” The Washingtonian, 2/97)

Sen. McCain Attacked Christian Leaders And Republicans In A Blistering Speech During The 2000 Campaign. MCCAIN: “Unfortunately, Governor Bush is a Pat Robertson Republican who will lose to Al Gore. … The political tactics of division and slander are not our values… They are corrupting influences on religion and politics, and those who practice them in the name of religion or in the name of the Republican Party or in the name of America shame our faith, our party and our country. Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance, whether they be Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton on the left, or Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell on the right.” (Sen. John McCain, Remarks, Virginia Beach, VA, 2/28/00)

Celebrating His First Senate Election In 1986, Sen. McCain Screamed At And Harassed A Young Volunteer. “It was election night 1986, John McCain had just been elected to the U.S. Senate for the first time. Even so, he was not in a good mood. McCain was yelling at the top of his lungs and poking the chest of a young volunteer who had set up a lectern that was too tall for the 5-foot-9 politician to be seen to advantage, according to a witness to the outburst. ‘Here this poor guy is thinking he has done a good job, and he gets a new butt ripped because McCain didn’t look good on television,’ Jon Hinz told a reporter Thursday. At the time, Hinz was executive director of the Arizona Republican Party. … ‘There were an awful lot of people in the room,’ Hinz recalled. ‘You’d have to stick cotton in your ears not to hear it. He (McCain) was screaming at him, and he was red in the face.’” (Kris Mayes and Charles Kelly, “Stories Surface On Senator’s Demeanor,” The Arizona Republic, 11/5/99)

Sen. McCain “Publicly Abused” Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL). “[McCain] noted his propensity for passion but insisted that he doesn’t ‘insult anybody or fly off the handle or anything like that.’ This is, quite simply, hogwash. McCain often insults people and flies off the handle…. There have been the many times McCain has called reporters ‘liars’ and ‘idiots’ when they have had the audacity to ask him unpleasant, but pertinent, questions. ” (Editorial, “There’s Something About McCain,” The Austin American-Statesman, 1/24/07)

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=The+McCain+truth+files

Nice list!

Thanks. Too bad people have little interest in it. Here is another one for the few who are.

FR links on McCain's record from Feb. 2000. MrChips collection.

Thanks. Too bad it wasn’t (and still isn’t) posted in a convenient link so more people can get to it. That might have at least saved you...what? 2,000 or your 3,000 postings. Ain’t technology great? ;-)

Seems reasonable to presume, McCain’s selection for VP is still a decision being formulated.

$20 says that many of the people to whom Mac's already made overtures are running from him like Satan from holy water. No one who wants a future in politics is going to agree to be his Veep. If MacCain loses, his running mate is screwed. If he wins, he's screwed even more.

I’ll vote for McCain (for our troops if nothing else), but I damn sure don’t have to like it.

While I want our troops to have the very best support, since Mac's not serious about prosecuting the WOT, he's cynically pouring out their blood like water in the desert.

No one who wants to close GITMO, opposes "torture" of detainees, leaves the border wide open, wishes to maintain our dependence on foreign oil by opposing drilling in ANWR, wants to keep us in debt to the Chicoms by continuing our onesided "free trade" policy and wants de facto NATO support for an Al-Qai'da base in the heart of the Balkans (called Kosovo) is genuinely serious about fighting the War on Terror.

In short, MacCain is a whole lot of talk but no real action.

BTW, I did a McCain Truth file, but it was too late by the time I realized what had happened.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=The+McCain+truth+files
Tuesday, January 29, 2008
The John McCain Truth Files

For months on end it was posted on McCain threads day after day. It’s too bad more FReepers aren’t interested in finding out about the candidates. Imagine how little non-political junkies care.

"300 million Americans and this is what it comes down to."

Mind boggling, isn't it? This is the best our country has to offer?

Just wanted a little parity when we had a Romney Truth file, Rudy Truth file, etc. I thought the man just said McCain doesn’t have his support. That’s all.