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Obama had greater role on liberal survey (Lied about involvement)
The Politico ^ | March 31, 2008 | KENNETH P. VOGEL

Posted on 03/31/2008 7:12:58 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than his aides now acknowledge in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion– positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he’s projected during his presidential campaign.

The evidence comes from an amended version of an Illinois voter group’s detailed questionnaire, filed under his name during his 1996 bid for a state Senate seat.

Late last year, in response to a Politico story about Obama’s answers to the original questionnaire, his aides said he “never saw or approved” the questionnaire.

They asserted the responses were filled out by a campaign aide who “unintentionally mischaracterize(d) his position.”

But a Politico examination determined that Obama was actually interviewed about the issues on the questionnaire by the liberal Chicago non-profit group that issued it. And it found that Obama – the day after sitting for the interview – filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes adding to one answer.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; banglist; nobama; obama; revisionisthistory; stalinisttactics; starkravingsocialist
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To: george76

21 posted on 03/31/2008 12:34:11 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Let Freedom Ping List - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Join it.)
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To: EagleUSA

No, don’t tell me that OBama Lies?!


22 posted on 03/31/2008 3:36:36 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: george76; JCG; Fred Nerks; Candor7; forkinsocket; USF
Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

AAAAAaaaaaaaaalllllllllllLLLLLLLaaaaaaaahHHHHHHHaaaaaaaaaOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooWacky Bear!

Bring on the Freeper fatwa!

23 posted on 03/31/2008 4:19:32 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: Candor7
CHANGE! CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!

DO IT IN DENVER! SEE YOU THERE!

RECREATE68org.LINK.

The people have been left without appropriate institutions for their representation. We intend to create those institutions!

Join us in the streets of Denver as we resist a two-party system that allows imperialism and racism to continue unrestrained.


24 posted on 03/31/2008 7:13:25 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Superdelegates are Another Dysfunctional Liberal Fix
American Thinker | March 31, 2008 | J.R. Dunn
Posted on 03/31/2008 11:07:01 AM EDT by K-oneTexas
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1994420/posts


25 posted on 03/31/2008 9:02:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

BTTT


26 posted on 03/31/2008 10:33:23 PM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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To: Fred Nerks; george76; Beckwith; forkinsocket
What a wonderful post. You got it 100% accurate as to what Obummmer means for America.

The pictures convety the EXACT message that people need to look to, and then ask questions.

Its interesting to watch Hillery criticize Obama without raising the REAL issues.

I hope McPain is taking notes from our FR posts.

I figure he could glean enough from 3 or 4 threads to end Obama's political career FOREVER!

POWAH TO DAH PEEBLE!

LOL

The DEMS are a twisted bunch of totalitarian, Utopian, weak minded hacks.

27 posted on 04/01/2008 7:34:11 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: Candor7; Fred Nerks
Barack Obama - To Hell and Back

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28 posted on 04/01/2008 7:38:00 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Candor7

thanks...


29 posted on 04/01/2008 8:25:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: Candor7
I hope McPain is taking notes from our FR posts.

He doesn't have the stones to bring the bad stuff out about either Shillary or B.O. He wants to take the "high road". All our (R)'s are huge pandering wimps to the (Dems)!

30 posted on 04/01/2008 8:39:33 PM PDT by In God I trust
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To: Fred Nerks

UPDATE

NOW APPEARS OBAMA’S COMMUNIST MUSLIM COUSIN IS PM OF KENYA

Cabinet: Kibaki meets ministers

Story by NATION Team
Publication Date: 2008/04/01

Cabinet ministers have said they are ready to work with ODM leader Raila Odinga to implement the power-sharing deal signed in February, sources close to the meeting have revealed.

President Kibaki chairs a Cabinet meeting at his Harambee House office in Nairobi on Monday. Photo/PPS
In the first formal Cabinet meeting since President Kibaki and the Prime Minister-designate signed the deal to end post-election violence, the ministers also agreed on the need to speed up the resettlement of displaced families.

They also challenged the police to beef up security and crack down on those threatening the refugees who are willing to return to their farms.

However, the 15 ministers said President Kibaki should not share executive authority with any other office. The President can consult on who should be in government but the final say on who should occupy which position should be left to him, sources privy to the talks said.

Determine size

Sources said the ministers wanted the President to determine the size and structure of the Cabinet and insisted that he should not be dictated to.

The team said it was ready to work with Mr Odinga, the Prime Minister-designate, but claimed that he was “a man under siege”.

According to the sources, the ministers said Mr Odinga was “a different man” when he consulted with the President but often appeared to be a changed person after consulting his party.

However, Mr Odinga’s spokesman, Mr Salim Lone, said in an interview with the Nation that the party was ready to meet the Government coalition to resolve the impasse over the Cabinet.

He said ODM had a clear perspective on what the accord signed between President Kibaki and Mr Odinga entailed.

The accord was signed on February 28, to end post-election violence in which over 1,200 people were killed after a dispute over the presidential election results.

The deal also provided for sharing of power between the President’s party, PNU and ODM.

And while addressing the Africa economic minister’s conference in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, on Monday, Mr Benjamin Mkapa said the power- sharing deal signed by President Kibaki and Mr Odinga provided the framework for peace.

The former Tanzanian president was a member of the team of eminent Africans that negotiated the deal.

“I don’t think there is a Cabinet crisis since they are already agreed on the framework,” said Mr Mkapa.

Give up slot

He said the task of naming a Cabinet should be left to the two leaders.

According to the sources who attended Monday’s Cabinet meeting, some ministers are said to have expressed willingness to give up the slot of Local Government Ministry to ODM.

The ministry, alongside those of Finance and Internal Security, are among those yet to be agreed on. Both PNU and ODM have been laying claim to the portfolios, sparking the crisis.

However, a Government source later said that the issue of giving up the Local Government seat had not been discussed.

An ODM source later said that the offer was not sufficient.

Monday’s meeting was attended by 15 of the 17 ministers because Foreign Affairs minister Moses Wetang’ula was away on official duties in Maputo, Mozambique, while Science and Technology minister Noah Wekesa was out of Nairobi.

The Cabinet appeared to add new qualifications for those hoping to be in the new line-up to be named by the President and the Prime Minister-designate, Mr Odinga


31 posted on 04/01/2008 8:42:29 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: CJ Wolf

Malik Obama, older brother to Barack Obama, holds an undated picture of Barak, left, and himself, middle, and an unidentified friend in his shop in eastern Kenya. (Karel Prinsloo, AP)

32 posted on 04/01/2008 8:44:07 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Candor7

Supporters of Raila Odinga, the leading presidential challenger, rallied in Kibera, a slum near Nairobi.

33 posted on 04/01/2008 8:48:02 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Rome2000
The NY Times calls that a rally?

LMAO

34 posted on 04/01/2008 8:49:02 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Rome2000; Candor7

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2008/01/23/kenya17859.htm

I knew, the moment Kofi Annan’s name was mentioned, the instigators of the violence in Kenya would be rewarded:

Kenya: Opposition Officials Helped Plan Rift Valley Violence

Police Should Protect Displaced Persons Camps
(Eldoret, January 24, 2008) – Human Rights Watch investigations indicate that, after Kenya’s disputed elections, opposition party officials and local elders planned and organized ethnic-based violence in the Rift Valley, Human Rights Watch said today. The attacks, targeting mostly Kikuyu and Kisii people in and around the town of Eldoret, could continue unless the government and opposition act to stop the violence, Human Rights Watch said.

Human Rights Watch called on the opposition Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) leadership to take immediate steps to stop its supporters from committing further attacks. At the same time, Human Rights Watch said the Kenyan police should urgently deploy extra officers to the region to protect displaced people and resident Kikuyu communities.

“Opposition leaders are right to challenge Kenya’s rigged presidential poll, but they can’t use it as an excuse for targeting ethnic groups,” said Georgette Gagnon, acting Africa director at Human Rights Watch. “We have evidence that ODM politicians and local leaders actively fomented some post-election violence, and the authorities should investigate and make sure it stops now.”

Research by Human Rights Watch in and around the town of Eldoret, which has borne the brunt of the Rift Valley violence, indicates that attacks by several ethnic communities against others, especially local Kikuyu populations, were planned soon after the elections. In some cases, local elders and opposition politicians appear to have incited and organized the violence. Since December 27, 2007, clashes between members of the Kalenjin and Luya communities and their Kikuyu and Kisii neighbors in the Rift Valley have left more than 400 people dead and have displaced thousands more.

Human Rights Watch interviewed members of several pro-ODM Kalenjin communities who described the ways in which local leaders and ODM party agents actively fomented violence against Kikuyu communities. A Kalenjin preacher in a village in Eldoret North constituency told Human Rights Watch that on the morning of December 29, 2007, a local ODM party mobilizer “called a meeting and said that war had broken in Eldoret town, so the elders organized the youth into groups of not less than 15, and they went to loot [Kikuyu] homes and burn them down.”

The following day, the village held another meeting and the youth marched to the nearby town of Turbo. They were turned away by police. But they returned early the next morning, catching the police off guard, “and burnt almost half of the Kikuyu shops in town, including the petrol station,” according to the preacher. Human Rights Watch visited Turbo and found that most Kikuyu-owned buildings had been laid to ruin by the attackers. Displaced Kikuyu seeking shelter at the police station in Turbo confirmed to Human Rights Watch that their homes and businesses were destroyed by groups of Kalenjin youth.

Human Rights Watch spoke to numerous members of Kalenjin commmunities around Eldoret who provided similar accounts. In many communities, local leaders and ODM mobilizers arranged frequent meetings following the election to organize, direct and facilitate the violence unleashed by gangs of local youth. In one case, an ODM councillor candidate is said to have provided a lorry to ferry youth to burn the homes of Kikuyu families in a neighboring community.

Many Kalenjin community leaders told Human Rights Watch that if the area’s ODM leadership or the local Kalenjin radio station KASS FM told people unequivically to stop attacks on Kikuyu homes, then they believe the violence would stop. “If the leaders say stop, it will stop immediately,” said one Kalenjin elder.

Human Rights Watch also collected accounts from several Kalenjin men present at community meetings where local elders and ODM mobilizers urged Kalenjin residents to contribute money toward the purchase of automatic weapons. Some communities have reportedly managed to obtain such weapons already. The same sources confirmed that plans have already been made to attack camps of displaced Kikuyu and the two remaining neighborhoods in Eldoret town where many Kikuyu homes remain intact – Langas and Munyaka. continued...


35 posted on 04/01/2008 9:44:49 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: Fred Nerks
“Opposition leaders are right to challenge Kenya’s rigged presidential poll, but they can’t use it as an excuse for targeting ethnic groups,” said Georgette Gagnon, acting Africa director at Human Rights Watch>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

See , even this liberal crap is assumed to be true. Opposition leaders are NOT right to challenge a "rigged election" in the streets of a tribal society. There was an administrative law challenge. It was decided against the Orange Party, and that was the end of it.Its TRIBAL politics.

Kenya is a TRIBAL democracy. The real decisions are made in a tribal way, the democratic represenative government as an institution is merely there for consensual decision making, The real power is weilded by tribal elders. Thus peaceful government in Kenya depends on inter-tribal social exchanges, intermarriage between the tribes, educational exchanges and economic exchanges. It DOES NOT DEPEND ON AN ELECTION

That is why Obama and his Black Nationalist, Black Power racism had no place in a Kenyan election. Obama is a neocolonialist, wanting to colonize Kenya for "Black Americans". Then set up an "Aid Funding " system which provides kick back to black American politicians ( Jefferson Case in Point). At the same time it creates a tyrant who will follow the Black Power American Politicians policies, including supporting Muslim nationalist expansion. Kenyans have finally figured that out. Black Power US politicians are just as "bad" as the British colonialists, if not worse.

Now the tribal remedy of "power sharing" between opponents has been accepted by Odinga. If he starts screwing around again with the Black Power schtick, and the advancement of the Muslim Councils goals in Kenya in order to create Soamlia II, then you will see him OFFED quite quickly.Dead, Wiped,Assassinated, call it what you will. Thats tribal politics, which BTW, works in Kenya.

Liberalism in Kenya only creates a huge misunderstanding.Liberals do NOT quite know what they are dealing with in tribal society. Liberals cannot accept tribal society, and want to end it, so the liberals themselves are "racists."

If a tribal government is stable, keeps the peace, and supports a good economy, attracts international investment, then there is very little wrong with it, UNLESS YOU HAPPEN TO BE A FREAKIN' LIBERAL SOCIALIST WITH AN IDEOLOGICAL UTOPIAN AXE TO GRIND!!!!!!

Such is Obama. And Such will be his demise.

36 posted on 04/02/2008 6:55:00 AM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: Candor7; Beckwith; AliVeritas
If he starts screwing around again with the Black Power schtick, and the advancement of the Muslim Councils goals in Kenya in order to create Soamlia II...

That's another thing that bothers me about obama and his muslim connection to Kenya politics. obama supported Mohamed Abdid, a Somali muslim in his election bid for Mandera East, in 2007.

Mohamed Abdid is an exUS Marine who worked for the Keith Ellison campaign before moving to Kenya.

MOHAMED ABDID WEBSITE. LINK.

There must be more to this Somali connection...

37 posted on 04/02/2008 3:18:30 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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