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There just isn't enough support for real conservative candidates. I actually agree with that, but there is an obvious reason for this.

This is a nationwide problem because the whole country moves a little bit more to the left each year. Ronald Reagan was the peak for conservation. True. Can you think of even one person on the federal level, that has run on the Conservative principles Ronald Reagan heralded prior to and during his terms in office? I can't.

Our Senators and Congressman are not stupid. The conservative ones are usually going leftward each year berceuse that's what gets you elected these days. I would beg to differ here. They most certainly are stupid. Our current President has joined them to produce massive spending. They have also backed idiotic education nonsense that was basicly nonthing more than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. We have allowed open border to sap our nation. In short, you could go right down the line and list the tenets of Conservatism we have seen betrayed during the last twenty years since Reagan was President. And this has made it next to impossible to sell Conservatism, because the public isn't stupid. We have sold out our principles (as least our leaders have for us), and now it's impossible to sell Conservatism from a party that has sold it out for twenty years. And yet, they haven't a clue why they can't sell it. And they have decided to abandon it entirely with no pretenses to the contrary.

There is a way out of it but I'm not sure what it is. There are actually two ways out of it. The Republican party could come out and admit that they have sold Conservatism out over the last twenty years and announce that they were going to renew their dedication to it's tenets and implement them whenever possible from public office. Let's remember that Ronald Reagan had to fight to do the same thing in 1980. He was the only one who proposed the Conservative agenda he did, and the powers that be wasn't happy about it one bit.

The only other way would be to start a third party that devised a firm Conservative platform, and wasn't afraid to push it from local cities up thorough the federal government. The Republican party has made themselves comepletely irrelevent. If someone wanted to vote for a leftist, why would they vote for the watered down leftist? No, they would vote for the real thing.

Just look at the fantasy land primary the Democrats have. All based on emotions and image. This is how foolish many Americans are getting. Life is too nice here so people have a lot of space to indulge their fantasies. Such as saddling the USA with trillions of dollars of expenditures to combat global warming while China and India have unrestricted CO2 emissions and already account for two thirds all man made CO2 emissions. I firmly agree. But look at what that McCain dummard is doing. I know you refrence it farther down, but he buys into this B.S. Between him and the Democrats during the next four years, they'll destroy this nation with this and countless other bad policies. While this is taking place, Conservatism will have nowhere to go, no one to represent them or counter this clap-trap agenda.

You won't even be able to develop a base from which to push Conservatism in 2012, because the Republican party will be trying to kill any such uprising. If McCain is elected, there will be no effort to rebuild, to develop our brand, to out the truth of Conservatism vs what is being ushered in. McCain is the perfect Third-Way candidate. He will do ten times the damage to this nation that Bill Clinton, Hillary or Obama could. He will do it because there will be no oppostion. Having gone the Third-Way route, the Republicans and the Democrats will be able to support just about anything he wants to do.

You've now seen how absolutely destructive to Conservative policy Bush was. McCain is even worse. Watch the destruction this guy leaves in his path. He is the poison pill for Conservatism.

Folks will vote him in, and Conservatism will simply die and blow away. Do you think forums like this will blast him? You know darn well many people will support him simply because he has an (R) after his name. They will challenge anyone who criticizes him from this side of the isle. There will be long lists of all his accomplishments, that will ignore the utter Conservative destrucion he will leave in his wake. Look at what we have had to deal with for the last eight years and tell me I'm wrong.

That India and China information was just on the Glenn Beck show. And I agree with it.

McCain wants to stop global warming because he knows this nonsense gets him votes. In the absense of any Conservative arguements to the contrary, you're right.

Who is selling Conservatism these days? Bush? (LMAO) McCain? The RNC? This nation has slid so far left over the last eight years it's difficult to list all the problems that have been created and ignored.

Conservatism doesn't sell because we don't have any salesmen in our showroom. And voting McCain salesman of the year isn't going to change that. It will solidify the problem for decades to come.

I think you will probably vote McCain when it comes down to McCain or Hussein in November

You won't even be able to develop a base from which to push Conservatism in 2012, because the Republican party will be trying to kill any such uprising. If McCain is elected, there will be no effort to rebuild, to develop our brand, to out the truth of Conservatism vs what is being ushered in. McCain is the perfect Third-Way candidate. He will do ten times the damage to this nation that Bill Clinton, Hillary or Obama could. He will do it because there will be no oppostion. Having gone the Third-Way route, the Republicans and the Democrats will be able to support just about anything he wants to do.

BUMPed for The Truth!!!

And voting McCain salesman of the year isn't going to change that. It will solidify the problem for decades to come.

Bears repeating, in bold: And voting McCain salesman of the year isn't going to change that. It will solidify the problem for decades to come.

I think McCain would wipe the GOP out of any position of federal power for a generation to come.