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Getting Mrs. Clinton [Peggy Noonan]
The Wall Street Journal ^ | March 28, 2008 | PEGGY NOONAN

Posted on 03/27/2008 8:02:30 PM PDT by Aristotelian

I think we've reached a signal point in the campaign. This is the point where, with Hillary Clinton, either you get it or you don't. There's no dodging now. You either understand the problem with her candidacy, or you don't. You either understand who she is, or not. And if you don't, after 16 years of watching Clintonian dramas, you probably never will.

That's what the Bosnia story was about. Her fictions about dodging bullets on the tarmac -- and we have to hope they were lies, because if they weren't, if she thought what she was saying was true, we are in worse trouble than we thought -- either confirmed what you already knew (she lies as a matter of strategy, or, as William Safire said in 1996, by nature) or revealed in an unforgettable way (videotape! Smiling girl in pigtails offering flowers!) what you feared (that she lies more than is humanly usual, even politically usual).

But either you get it now or you never will. That's the importance of the Bosnia tape.

Many in the press get it, to their dismay, and it makes them uncomfortable, for it sours life to have a person whose character you feel you cannot admire play such a large daily role in your work. But I think it's fair to say of the establishment media at this point that it is well populated by people who feel such a lack of faith in Mrs. Clinton's words and ways that it amounts to an aversion. They are offended by how she and her staff operate. They try hard to be fair. They constantly have to police themselves.

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The Clinton saga would be Shakespearean if it weren't so taudry.
1 posted on 03/27/2008 8:02:31 PM PDT by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian
The Clinton saga would be Shakespearean if it weren't so taudry.

Well put. You mean, if Shakespeare had lived in Appalachia?

2 posted on 03/27/2008 8:06:08 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Free New York)
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To: Aristotelian

Bump for later read.


3 posted on 03/27/2008 8:07:51 PM PDT by khnyny (Hillary is the national equivalent of Tracy Flick)
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To: Aristotelian
she lies as a matter of strategy, or, as William Safire said in 1996, by nature

How is she any different than Obama or most politicians in this regard? They all tend to believe their own fantasies. That's the downside of "charisma."

4 posted on 03/27/2008 8:07:58 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Free New York)
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To: Aristotelian

Shakespearean in the sense the Clinton Library and Massage parlor looks like a mobile home on stilts? bwahahaha. Hey Hillary is finally getting her due attention by the media who for so long fawned over the both of them. This can not be all bad!


5 posted on 03/27/2008 8:10:34 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Aristotelian

I waiting for the Hildabeast to have so much frustration that she kicks Huma in the rear.


6 posted on 03/27/2008 8:11:01 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Aristotelian

The Democrats and the Media (but I repeat myself) defended the clintons for 8 long years. They don’t deserve anyone better now.


7 posted on 03/27/2008 8:15:00 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: Aristotelian

I wonder if Peggy will declare for Obama.


8 posted on 03/27/2008 8:15:53 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Aristotelian
The Clinton saga would be Shakespearean if it weren't so taudry.

Bingo, nailed and Zing!

9 posted on 03/27/2008 8:17:58 PM PDT by fullchroma
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To: the invisib1e hand
That comment was unkind and inappropriate. I live in the Southern end of Appalachia. I am seeking to represent the 11th District of North Carolina in Congress, and knock Heath Shuler, the accidental Democrat incumbent, out of office.

I just returned from a two-hour televised debate with all three Republican candidates, followed by the monthly dinner meeting of the Republicans in one of the more rural of the 15 counties in my District.

These are salt of the Earth people. These are hard-working, practical people. These are people you can trust with your life -- and many Americans do exactly that, since young men and women in this area are more likely than elsewhere to join the US military and serve well wherever they are sent.

I am ashamed of the Clintons, both of them. But then, so are most of the people in my District, including the Republicans, most of the independents, and some of the Democrats. Please do not tar us with the Clinton brush.

Congressman Billybob

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10 posted on 03/27/2008 8:18:12 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Aristotelian
Hillary = LIAR

Obama = LOONEY

McCain = LIBERAL

Scary, isn't it?

11 posted on 03/27/2008 8:19:32 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: Aristotelian

“Many in the press get it, to their dismay, and it makes them uncomfortable, for it sours life to have a person whose character you feel you cannot admire play such a large daily role in your work.”

Many in the press have been defending this phony for as long as I can remember and should be begging the American people for forgiveness. Hillary, crawl back under the Little Rock you crawled out from under and take your husband with you.


12 posted on 03/27/2008 8:20:14 PM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

The tale of the Scorpion and the Frog comes to mind.


14 posted on 03/27/2008 8:25:36 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: Aristotelian
But she cannot admit to herself that she can lose. Because Clintons don't lose. She can't figure out how to win, and she can't accept the idea of not winning. She cannot accept that this nobody from nowhere could have beaten her, quietly and silently, every day. (She cannot accept that she still doesn't know how he did it!)

Damn fine bit of writing by Ms. Noonan.

15 posted on 03/27/2008 8:27:31 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: Defiant

The Wall Street Journal is excerpt and link only. Please do not add on more to a properly excerpted article in a response. Thanks.


16 posted on 03/27/2008 8:28:12 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Aristotelian

Hillary is a pig in a poke.


17 posted on 03/27/2008 8:30:08 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: the invisib1e hand

if Shakespeare had lived in Appalachia?

Yes.
Scene: A trailor park in Arkansas.
in the laundry room Hillery! frantically
scrubbing at blue dress.

Hillery!: “Out! Out! Damned Spot!”

Voice from next room.

Bill: “ Honey, when you’re in Bosnia, pick up some
more Beer-nuts, and watch out for snipers.”

Hillery!: (Grumbling) “Sure send me to Bosnia for
Beer-nuts while he sits around and watches the Hooters
channel.”

Hillery!: (loudly) “Of course dear, it will be good for my foreign policy portfolio.”

Fade to black.


18 posted on 03/27/2008 8:33:17 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Aristotelian

What, really, is Mrs. Clinton doing? She is having the worst case of cognitive dissonance in the history of modern politics. She cannot come up with a credible, realistic path to the nomination. She can’t trace the line from “this moment’s difficulties” to “my triumphant end.” But she cannot admit to herself that she can lose. Because Clintons don’t lose. She can’t figure out how to win, and she can’t accept the idea of not winning. She cannot accept that this nobody from nowhere could have beaten her, quietly and silently, every day. She cannot accept that she still doesn’t know how he did it!


Wow. Peg can really lower the boom.


19 posted on 03/27/2008 8:34:16 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Aristotelian
Hillary Clinton's illusions of grandeur and narcissism is so vast in scope she can actually believe the tales she spins because in her mind she is omnipotent.

When has she ever been challenged by those loyalists who surround her? She's not because they won't dare. Her anger is legion if betrayed. She blames others for her very visible flaws and shortcomings.

The press has not challenged her up until recently and she fumes lashing out at them for their questions, including her daughter and husband.

Hillary's Bosnia Sniper Fire lie did not have to be told, but she recklessly told a bald faced lie without ever considering that she would be caught lying and expects us to agree with her that she is only human and to lie is human. The empress has no clothes.

20 posted on 03/27/2008 8:36:02 PM PDT by harpo11 (Rush, had better have a back-up strategy just in case the third term grabbing Clintons win the WH.)
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