Father Denied Dying Daughter's Wish (VERY SAD UPDATE FROM O'REILLY FACTOR TONIGHT)

Conservative Vermont Vet | March 27, 2008 | Conservative Vermont Vet

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

Update: Despite efforts from Fox News to facilitate this dying girl's wish to have her father at her bedise when she passes, the imovable, cold-hearted, beauraucratic, red tape of the Jucidiary, Bureau Of Prisons and U.S. Attorney are intransigent in their unwillingness to bend the "rules" to allow this to happen.

[skimbell]

I read in a post on this last week that he’s in for some type of drug offense.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

Hey Y'all:

The compassion you are all exhibiting is overwhelming and makes me ashamed to even consider you fellow Freepers.

Notwithstanding the Father's transgressions (drug related and not child molesting, rape, murder, etc.) how does one stand in judgment without considering the life (and soon the death) of this innocent child?

Yeah right, "Dont' do the crime if you can't do the crime" is really a thesis in intellectual sophistry and can only hope that none of you are ever placed in similar situation.

As for me, being a common sinner, I will pray for God's help for the sake of this child--regardless of the sins of the father.

[mnehring]

So if he was pushing or making the stuff, he may be responsible for other people losing their children?

[Halls]

Exactly my thinking!

[USF]

Thanks.

BTW, you’ll like comment #46 on the other thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1992628/posts?page=46#46

[microgood]

Have you ever studied just exactly how lethal Meth is to anyone that tries it? The addiction schedule is staggering. This is no recreational drug. Meth is death.

Yes, I have some friends that almost died from it. It really is the worst drug out there. That does not mean, however, that the Feds should be involved or that the girl, who is going to die, should have to pay for the sins of her father.

The other thing I do not buy is that the "dealer" is this evil monster and the "user" is some exploited innocent victim, especially at the lower levels. It takes two to tango, and "users" often transition to "dealers" to pay for their habit.

I was growing up when the drugs really hit this country and there wasn't alot of armtwisting going on. It was pretty much a consensual situation. Parents like to think their children are victims but that is rarely the case.

[Onelifetogive]

...and can only hope that none of you are ever placed in similar situation.

He was not placed in the situation, he placed himself in this situation. My point is that when you get yourself sentenced to prison, you are no longer in control of the situation and are in no place to demand anything. He can ask, plead, beg, etc, but if he was a better father and not a druggie, he'd be able to decide for himself to attend to his daughter.

Is there any limit to the demands that should be accomodated from the dying? What if he was violent? What if it was a son (far less cute?) What if the daughter was 45 years old? How about if the daughter had 2 years to live? Where is the limit to freeing criminals for dying relatives?

And I applaud your compassion and celebrate your right to discuss issues such as this here on FR. (Even when we disagree.)

[fish hawk]

Hey, it's not our fault the Dad screwed up and went to prison and that the Judge doesn't want to let him go home. Maybe there is a lesson here for the Dad that he will carry for the rest of his life. If he was a good father to start with, he would have been with his daughter all a long. It's out of our hands so if you want emotion, sip all you want.

[SmithL]

Prison sucks.

Who knew?

Maybe we should let all the bad boys out if they can demonstrate some personal tragedy in their lives.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

Is there any limit to the demands that should be accomodated from the dying?

Absolutely there should be. And they should be considered on a case by case basis when considering the merits thereof

What if he was violent?

Hardly think so, as he is house in a "Camp" that has NO BARS and NO FENCE. Inmates could/can simply walk away anything they so choose

What if it was a son (far less cute?)

Now that really makes sense. Would a father love a son less than a daughter? Would this not touch SOME OF US the same if this were so??

What if the daughter was 45 years old?

It would make absolutely no difference: A child dying, no matter the age, holds as much importance as any other.

How about if the daughter had 2 years to live?

THEN THIS WOULD BE A MOOT POINT BECAUSE AS OF AUGUST, HE WOUILD BE FREE TO TRAVEL AND SPEND AS MUCH TIME BY HER SIDE AS HE WISHES.

Sadly, she will be dead by then.

Where is the limit to freeing criminals for dying relatives?

HE IS NOT ASKING TO BE "FREED." HE IS ONLY ASKING TO BE ABLE TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME WITH HIS DAUGTHER (LET US NOT FORGET THAT THIS WAS HER DYING WISH) AS NEED BE UNTIL SHE IS DEAD AND THEN HE WOULD BE RETURNED TO HIS JAIL FACILITY.

[USF]

Re (Onelifetogive): Where is the limit to freeing criminals for dying relatives?

Jason Yaeger is not asking to be let off, has offered to spend double the remaining time he has to serve if they will let him be with his daughter when she passes...

[USF]

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4490468&page=1

He has pleaded repeatedly with prison officials to honor the bureau's apparent policy of allowing furloughs and transfers under "extraordinary'' circumstances, but has been rebuffed time and again, he told ABC News in a telephone interview from prison today. He is scheduled to be transferred in August to a halfway house just an hour from his daughter's bedside, but prison officials have refused to transfer him early, he said.

They already have a policy of allowing furloughs and transfers under "extraordinary circumstances."

If this is not "extraordinary circumstances," what is?

[Onelifetogive]

If this is not "extraordinary circumstances," what is?

My point is...If you don't get caught making and/or selling Meth, you don't have to rely on the mercy of the prison bureaucracy to allow you to be with your daughter when she needs you. He should beg, plead, finagle, whatever, but the fault of his not being there rests SOLELY on his shoulders.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

com·pas·sion:

–noun 1. a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering.

—Synonyms 1. commiseration, mercy, tenderness, heart, clemency. See sympathy.

I'm 64 years old; spent 8 years in USAF (18 months in Nam); was a Federal Agent and busted my share of drug users/dealer; am a law and order type; don't do drugs; and also believe in the addage that if you can't do the time, don't do the crime

That said, I'm really surprised at the total lack of empathy that apparently the majority hold for this child and rabid animosity toward the father for his transgressions.

After being around here both lurking and otherwise for many years, I was under the impression that while Freepers were (as I am) Conservatives, I also thought most had a modicum of compassion for their fellow man--especially under circumstances such as this

How can one not be touched by the dying wish of an innocent little girl?

I guess that only the pure and holy deserve compassion; those who have NOT sinned?

Well, being so close to Easter (and Holy Friday) when we believers honored Our Lord for giving his life for us sinners, and if HE can forgive me, I guess I can forgive this father at least to the point of allowing him to be with his daughter as she lays in bed up to her last breath.

God Bless her, her father and all of you.

[USF]

I don't disagree with that... it's basically the systems lack of compassion and common sense which upsets me, when it could apply existing policy to this extraordinary case.

Hopefully, their Congressman (Jeff Fortenberry) will stay on this one...

[Don W]

I too was shocked and dismayed by the utter lack of compassion that many of our number have shown.

A very wise man once said: let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Many of us should remember this.

[Pistolshot]

--regardless of the sins of the father.

And that is precisely the reason he cannot see his daughter.

He has already been judged by man's law.

What God thinks of his crime that puts him behind bars, and NOT be with his child as He delivers her to His bosum, is what he will be judged by at the end of his days.

That is his doing, not anyone elses.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

My point is...If you don't get caught making and/or selling Meth, you don't have to rely on the mercy of the prison bureaucracy to allow you to be with your daughter when she needs you. He should beg, plead, finagle, whatever, but the fault of his not being there rests SOLELY on his shoulders.

Ah, it must be nice for you and others who hold the same opinion to be above reproach and never have done anything which begins to be as horrific as this father engaged in.

Don't know if you are a Christian, but wonder how God will judge you if/when you approach the Golden Gates and ask for admittance?

Oh, I digress, you and the others have nothing to worry about as you apparently have never sinned.

I wonder if God will look less favorably upon us who have committed run of the mill sins as opposed to have been a drug dealer; or a pimp; or a murderer; or ......... will he pick and choose which ones to forgive based on our "perception" of how grave the offense??

IF so, there are a lot of us who are going to be looking for a glass of ice water in the bowels of damnation and hellfires.

[Know et al]

Meth conviction I think.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

He has already been judged by man's law.

And since when has "Man's Law" been "INFLEXIBLE?"

Exceptions are made every single day for every single reason--and for none at all

What God thinks of his crime that puts him behind bars, and NOT be with his child as He delivers her to His bosum, is what he will be judged by at the end of his days.

Amen and why not wait and let God Judge him when he dies?

Who are we to judge him here and now and decide omnipotently, that he does not deserve to be afforded the benefit of being with his daughter, which appears to be the case so many are willing to proclaim

That is his doing, not anyone elses.

Granted. But, as he is at the end of his sentence and NOT asking to be released from incarceration, only to be allowed to spend whatever time his daughter has left (and then be returned to prison) should this be considered UNREASONABLE??

Apparently, so!!!!