Skip to comments.Hillary, Serial Fabulist?
Posted on 03/26/2008 8:35:13 AM PDT by jdm
Has Hillary Clintons Tuzla fantasy opened a bigger can of worms for the presidential aspirant? Jake Tapper at ABC News wonders whether the press should take a look at earlier Hillary anecdotes to determine whether a pattern of fabulism exists. Sure enough, he discovers an old chestnut from 1994 that Hillary has not bothered to dust off for the current campaign:
In light of Tuzla-gate (catchy, no?), reporters are going over past statements by Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, (and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois) to see if others dont stand more rigorous examination.
One that may get renewed scrutiny is a story she told Women in Military Service in 1994 that shortly after the end of the Vietnam war, she looked into joining the Marines.
In June 1994, Clinton told an organization trying to build a memorial for women who had served in the armed forces, that while living in Fayetteville, Arkansas, in 1975, I decided that I was very interested in having some experience in serving in some capacity in the military. So I walked into our local recruiting office
And the rest may not be history, at least not in the sense of, well, it actually happening. Hillary married Bill Clinton in 1975, and his political career looked very, very bright; as Tapper notes, he was considered a shoo-in for the Attorney General election the next year. Even Maureen Dowd in 1994 questioned the notion that Hillary intended to dump Bill and his political future for a stint as a jarhead.
The story gets pretty strange. She claims that the Marine recruiter told her she was too old (27), her eyesight was too poor, and she had one too many X chromosomes. Now, in 1975, the military services were struggling for recruits. The draft had ended, the Vietnam War had left a generation of potential recruits looking elsewhere, and Congress was pressing the recruiters to find more women. Its not impossible that a Marine recruiter would chase a 27-year-old woman out of his office, but it certainly seems highly unlikely, especially one with a law degree and some experience in the field.
Unlike the Tuzla episode, no witnesses to this transaction have appeared, nor are any likely to do so. However, the collapse of her credibility this week, after repeating the story at least four times during the campaign, calls into question her personal anecdotes, especially those that paint her in the kind of crusading light as this does. Hillary can expect greater scrutiny of her claims, especially since the media got burned by its credulity on Tuzla.
Addendum: Can we stop with the -gate scandal names? Its not catchy; it shows an incredible lack of creativity. I dont know how to break it to the media, but the Watergate scandal didnt actually have anything to do with water. Instead of mindlessly applying the same hackneyed and inappropriate suffix to every scandal, why not come up with something interesting and original? Here are a few we can offer for free to our friends in the media:
Feel free to add your suggestions in the comments.
Update: I suppose it wont be long before we get to the fabulist tale of how Hillary got her name, as some of our commenters suggest. Snopes delivers the bad news to Hillary, even if the news media hasnt exactly caught up to this bit of fabulism:
Hillary Clinton said her mother, Dorothy Rodham, had read an article about the intrepid Edmund Hillary, a one-time beekeeper who had taken to mountain climbing, when she was pregnant in 1947 and liked the name. Although it is true that Edmund Hillary did not perform the feat that made him a household name throughout the English-speaking world until 1953 (by which time Hillary Rodham was already six years old), it is not true, as many skeptics have asserted, that Edmund Hillary was nothing more than an obscure Auckland beekeeper until then. Even before World War II he was already a serious mountain climber who boasted to a friend that some day Im going to climb Everest, and by 1947 he was honing the necessary skills on the peaks of the Southern Alps. Its certainly possible young Edmund was profiled in some periodical as far back in 1947.
However, how likely was Dorothy Rodham, a Chicago housewife, to have seen an article about a New Zealand mountain climber? We performed a comprehensive search of several major American newspapers (including the Chicago Tribune) and found that none of them made any mention of Edmund Hillary whatsoever prior to June 1953, so its fair to say that the American media paid him little note prior to his successful assault on Mt. Everest that year.
That little bit of fabulism didnt hurt anyone except Hillary herself when people did the obvious math. It did indicate a relationship between Hillary and Truth that seems rather distant and entirely self-serving.
Her list of lies - someone should post these
Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn’t cover the market back then.)
Whoppers She Won’t Confess To
She didn’t know about the FALN pardons.
She didn’t know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
She didn’t know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
She didn’t know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
She opposed NAFTA at the time.
She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
She played a role in the ‘90s economic recovery.
The billing records showed up on their own.
She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
She was always a Yankees fan.
She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).
Interesting concept, researching validity before reporting a pack of lies. I'm sure they will tire of this game soon enough.
You should forward this list to Mr Tapper, at least he will of been warned that the list could be quite long
Add to the lies..Playing on the soccer team of her school (which did not have one)
Claims that she, as a neophyte, made all her own (complex) trades in the cattle futures scam.
Then of course there are those HUNDREDS of “don’t recall”s in front of the Grand Jury..
Is the MSM conceding her ‘misremembering’ or is Clinton lying such a nonevent (like the sun came up this morning) that it doesn’t make the news?
Just as with that reprobate old man of hers, there is serious pathology here.
If the soccer moms and morons put this psychopath in the White House, it will give new meaning to Joseph D’Maistre’s remark that “People get the government they deserve.”
Call me when it’s over...
“I was in Thailand, playing Ping-Pong in Ding Dang. A man
was choking. I did the Heimlich with my mighty cankles,
saving his life. He turned out to be the King of Thailand!”
From `The Memoirs of HRC’
Now, in 1975, the military services were struggling for recruits.
As I recall there was a lot of RIF-ing going on.
They have each been caught lying through their teeth and they dismiss their lies by saying it was a mistake.
Just when did a lie become a “mistake?”
Last night someone on the Levin thread made a wonderful comment to the effect that “If I “mis-spoke” or “mis-remembered” as often as Hillary does, my family would take me in to the Doc to see if I had Alsheimers!”
This one might actually be true. They might have heard she was coming and released the refugees in advance, so they wouldn't have to listen to her drone on and on and on in that, uh, you know, screechy voice. ;-)
She didn’t hire Craig Livingstone or put him in charge of the FBI files.
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