Posted on 03/21/2008 5:39:05 AM PDT by metmom
The two-decade search for an AIDS vaccine is in crisis after two field tests of the most promising contender not only did not protect people from the virus but may actually have put them at increased risk of becoming infected, The Washington Post reported.
Experts are questioning the overall strategy and scientific premises of the nearly $500 million in AIDS vaccine research funded annually by the government after the two field tests were halted last September and seven other trials of AIDS vaccines have either been stopped or put off indefinitely.
The recently closed studies, STEP and Phambili, were halted when it became clear the STEP study was futile and possibly harmful.
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I like to think of it as society's filter!
with a few exceptions it picks the immoral and base people who are gratuitously polluting the image of God they bear, and slowly removes them from circulation. Like the death penalty, there is an occasional innocent person who dies, but for the most part the system works well and is well worth having. If AIDS did not exist our nation would have spiraled into debauchery much faster than it is now progressing in that direction. If only we could create a disease that only attacks socialists or radical muslims I'd welcome that plague too.
It seems odd to me that the same kooks who want a reduction in human population "for the environment" also sometimes want a cure for AIDS. I would think an eco-nut should love AIDS.
You da man!
Yes, I do.
Even if there should be a treatment, or cure, for AIDS/HIV, do you really think it’s going to be used on those supposedly 40 million (where ever that number comes from) over in Africa?
It's beyond evident that you don't know what you're talking about. To wit, some of the worst affected countries in Africa include Lesotho (stable, multi-party democracy), Botswana (stable, multi-party democracy), South Africa (stable, multi-party democracy), and Malawi (stable, multi-party democracy). Before you dismiss the lives of tens of millions of infected human beings as not worth saving, maybe you should learn a little about what you're talking about. Just a suggestion.
AIDS/HIV research is not about finding a sure for those afflicted in Africa no matter how much you say it is. The push is for gays from gays.
Yup, that's it again. Because I'm anti-AIDS I must be gay. Winning argument there!
Few exceptions? There are already 12 MILLION orphaned children in Africa whose parents have died of AIDS. By contrast, "only" six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. "Only" 1.5 million Cambodians were murdered by Pol Pot's regime in the 1970s. "Only" 500,000 people were killed in the Rwandan genocide.
And right now, today there are 12 million orphaned children -- every one of whom counts as one of your "few" exceptions -- in Africa.
Now please, go on. Who is making the "immoral and base" argument?
Maybe you could provide sources to back up all the other statements you've made that people have asked for sources for and you've ignored.
Because I'm anti-AIDS I must be gay. Winning argument there!
Only you would think so cause it sure doesn't make sense to me. And I never said that either. Are you going to put words into my mouth and accuse me of saying something I didn't say, too?
If you really believe that any cure for AIDS will ever make it to Africa and help those you claim to be so concerned about, I have some land in FL to sell you.
BTW, just out of curiosity, what ARE you doing to help those in Africa afflicted with AIDS/HIV?
What figures do you want me to verify, exactly? I'm happy to cite anything. Have a specific query?
Maybe you could provide sources to back up all the other statements you've made that people have asked for sources for and you've ignored.
If there's been a specific request for documentation, then I've missed it. Give me a specific question about anything I've said and I'll answer it.
There are a very few (and tragic) exceptions to this, such as children born with AIDS, and people who get it through transfusions (rare these days). Other unfortunate victims are those who get it because they don't know their sex partners are promiscuous. But most AIDS still comes from BEHAVIOR: homosexual acts, promiscuous sex, and IV drug use.
Comparing AIDS with rhinovirus infections is a non-starter. Come up with another argument.
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metmom post 74 Gee, Judith Anne, you accused him of being gay? I looked but didn’t see that. Where did that happen?
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Judith Anne post 106 Who said that? Name somebody.
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Judith Anne post 107 Got a link? Got a post number?
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Judith Anne post 148 Any idea how many in the US, where all the fuss is, are living with HIV?
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metmom post 198 Bigger than cancer? Diabetes? Malaria? TB? Dysentary? Let's see some data to support that statement.
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metmom post 245 Maybe you could verify those figures.Maybe you could provide sources to back up all the other statements you've made that people have asked for sources for and you've ignored.
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Just so we're clear about what I'm asking for....What figures? The figures you keep spouting about how many people have AIDS, where they live, how many people have died from it, how many deaths that have orphaned children. All the numbers that are verified to have come from AIDS/HIV.
What are your sources? Where are you getting the numbers? How do you know they're accurate?
HIV/AIDS mutates constantly.
Just saw a science television show about mutations. Mice have now (actually about 20 years ago) been subjected to small pox. It changes everything we know about small pox. Our vaccinations as children will not contain this outbreak if it should happen.
The Russians in Siberia had enough of the vapors of the disease to spread over every large city in the world.
The Siberian plant has been closed for some ten years. Where is the serum? No one really knows.
The CDC here in the U.S. think they have found a vaccination, and we have enough for every person in the U.S. as well as for other countries.
It’s not like Ebola. You can only get Ebola from touch. Small Pox is in the air.
HIV/AIDS is passed from one carrier to another, and it has to go into the blood stream some way or another.
Colds? Someone sneezes 25 feet from you and you have it. I also use the Clorox wipies to wipe down the baskets. Guess what? Little kids who look and act healthy are picking up items in the grocery store to put in mom or dad’s basket and the item(s) are put back on the shelf. Hello, you get a cold.
Small Pox scares me.
I avoid posters such as Alter Kaker as I do the plague (pun intended).
You have both done well, though, “but you can’t fix stupid.” Ron Wright.
Ron White. Sheesh.
You guessed wrong. I also put American lives ahead of african lives.
YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
I don’t recall the the t.v. program, but some time back there was a a program about the phenomenon of the “down low” in the ahyphena male community. Apparently these otherwise normal married family men get together to have sex with one another. The AIDs virus gets passed around and taken home to unsuspecting wives. The premise of this thing was that the “down low” explains a lot of the AIDS in the ahyphena communisty. Apparently it is all ahyphena “men” engaged in the “down low” no typical white people involved in this aspect. But, you’re right, its probably all the fault of the “europeans’ as they refer to us typical white people.
Abstinence is the best cure for AIDs. Unfortunatly, we live in a world where people are encouraged to do whatever feels good to them, and to heck with the consequences.
One of the many legacies from the leftist counter-culture movement that is still being encouraged by former hippies in high places.
So if I'm understanding you correctly, you're pro-life with regard to non-homosexual Americans, but pro-death when it comes to the rest of the world. Ok...
Do you support lifetime abstinence? Because a huge number of women in Africa have gotten infected with HIV after monogamous intercourse with an unfaithful husband.
I did reply and that's not a "uncited source." I have said repeatedly that I don't know anything about disease research funding. That issue has been brought up repeatedly, and I given the same answer at least twice on this thread. This is the third time.
Gee, Judith Anne, you accused him of being gay? I looked but didn’t see that. Where did that happen? AK: No reply.
Again, I've answered that in another post. #54, Judith Anne said that I was always pushing the "GLBT, Rainbow position," which is a super secret way of implying that I'm a homosexual.
metmom post 198 Bigger than cancer? Diabetes? Malaria? TB? Dysentary? Let's see some data to support that statement. AK: No reply.
Well, by definition prioritizing of diseases is somewhat subjective. More people worldwide for instance have malaria, but fewer die than from AIDS. Looking at WHO data, for example, HIV/AIDS comes in as the #2 killer, behind "lower respiratory diseases," a catchall that describes a wide variety of different conditions that mainly contribute to infant mortality.
Your comparison is completely off-base. No one is talking about a cold vaccine, and no one is objecting to the use of drugs that mitigate or treat the symptoms of AIDS.
Robitussin treats the symptoms of an incurable disease that can be easily contracted by going about your normal business, no matter what precautions you take.
An AIDS vaccine attempts to prevent contraction of an incurable disease that can only be contracted through a very specific set of behaviors. Unfortunately, it causes death. Fortunately, however, it is much more easily avoided.
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