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A Bankrupt Superpower: The Collapse Of American Power
Intelligence Daily ^ | March 19, 2008 | By Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 03/20/2008 2:56:09 AM PDT by Fennie

The Bush administration forecasts a $410 billion federal budget deficit for this year, an indication that, as the US saving rate is approximately zero, the US is not only dependent on foreigners to finance its wars but also dependent on foreigners to finance part of the US government's domestic expenditures. Foreign borrowing is paying US government salaries--perhaps that of the president himself--or funding the expenditures of the various cabinet departments. Financially, the US is not an independent country.

A troubled currency and financial system and large budget and trade deficits do not present an attractive face to creditors. Yet Washington in its hubris seems to believe that the US can forever rely on the Chinese, Japanese and Saudis to finance America's life beyond its means. Imagine the shock when the day arrives that a US Treasury auction of new debt instruments is not fully subsribed...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1929; america; assclown; bush; china; congress; crash; dow; economy; iran; iraq; islam; israel; manipulation; paleonotconservative; paulcraigroberts; pcr; pitchforkpat; sellouts; shorting; surprise; treason
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To: Will88

My guess is, if you actually visited the Heritage website, your head would explode. But that’s ok, if someone posts something from a lib website, we need to accept it as truth and debate it.


261 posted on 03/21/2008 4:53:16 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: servantboy777
Many are rethinking their stand on cheap goods.

And that is good. There's only so many $49 DVD players that people can put out at the curb before they get the idea. BTW, you might be interested in this thread, it was before your time http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/599498/posts?page=158#158

262 posted on 03/21/2008 5:32:15 PM PDT by palmer
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To: 1rudeboy

You aren’t talking about the Heritage Foundation mag, are you?


263 posted on 03/21/2008 7:13:25 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen

Conservatively, I’d say 80% of the econ statistics I post on this website are from Heritage. And it’s funny to see the reactions.


264 posted on 03/21/2008 7:44:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I'm surprised because when I was looking at Heritage the other day and reading their writings on NAFTA and why conservatives should back it, most of what they wrote NAFTA was going to be hasn't come to pass. Also, they are another faction that supports Smoot-Hawley as being responsible for the Depression and I'd thought Friedman pretty handily decimated that view back in the '60s or so (can't remember the name of the book he wrote on the causes/aggravation of the Depression but I think it may have been written in the 60s).

I liked a lot of what Heritage has on the site though, but those two things I mentioned above really disappointed me because I expect more of a conservative site in the way of facts.

265 posted on 03/21/2008 8:19:48 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen

You and I must be reading a different Heritage.


266 posted on 03/22/2008 4:57:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: palmer

People like you are the reason this “Free Trade” was not stopped years ago...


267 posted on 03/22/2008 5:00:00 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep

Well, you can’t just line up people who believe in liberty against a wall and shoot them.


268 posted on 03/22/2008 5:05:56 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: sit-rep
I've taken my own steps over the years to stop it (see link in 262). I've made considerable efforts to buy American, union or otherwise. Last 4 cars were saturns and a Jeep. Shoes always American and clothes when I can find them. Few imported gadgets (no TV, DVD, etc). My woodstove is made in Virginia and burns wood made in Virginia.

What I don't support is federal political or bureaucratic mandates telling other people what to do.

269 posted on 03/22/2008 5:11:03 AM PDT by palmer
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To: 1rudeboy

My guns and ammo are all American made.


270 posted on 03/22/2008 5:12:34 AM PDT by palmer
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To: 1rudeboy

why would I want to do that?


271 posted on 03/22/2008 5:14:17 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep

Oh, I don’t know, I just cracked-up when I saw the comment beginning with “people like you.” Funnier than “there oughta be a law.”


272 posted on 03/22/2008 5:23:49 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Dude, back in the day you would be amazed at how many times I heard that old line...

"Oh, Gatt/Nafta is going to be great! We will raise the economies of third world countries and their citizens will become wealthy enough to buy from us!!! Can you imagine what opening our markets to billions of people will do for our economy...blah, blah, blah...

These countries have our manufacturing base now... What do they need from us that they cannot design and build for their own?

The stock market made a lot of people rich in the 90's. I hope they saved their money because it will never be made like this again. Unless of course they invest it in foreign markets who are buying up American assets...

"People like you" sums it up quite nicely when talking about duping the masses and getting away with it...

273 posted on 03/22/2008 5:38:42 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
What do they need from us that they cannot design and build for their own?

Oh, only about $1 trillion worth of stuff. From that allegedly devastated manufacturing base of ours.

274 posted on 03/22/2008 5:41:56 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: sit-rep
The stock market made a lot of people rich in the 90's. I hope they saved their money because it will never be made like this again. Unless of course they invest it in foreign markets who are buying up American assets...

Half of the profits for S&P 500 companies are derived from business done overseas. Stick your cash in your mattress. I'll continue to make 9% a yr in the mkt which is the avg the last 100yrs or so

275 posted on 03/22/2008 5:43:37 AM PDT by petercooper (Sure, Americans don't want Muslims running a couple U.S. ports, but they're fine with a Muslim Prez.)
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To: sit-rep
These countries have our manufacturing base now...

Same Number of Workers, 4.5X as Much Output

Both series (jobs and output) in the above chart are indexes equal to 100 in 1960. With roughly the same number of U.S. employees in manufacturing as in 1960, the U.S. economy produced almost 4.5 times as much manufacturing output in 2007 as in 1960! It's an often unappreciated, but amazing record of increases in American worker productivity in manufacturing.

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2008/03/same-number-of-workers-45x-as-much.html

276 posted on 03/22/2008 5:48:13 AM PDT by petercooper (Sure, Americans don't want Muslims running a couple U.S. ports, but they're fine with a Muslim Prez.)
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To: petercooper

Good for you... I hope you remain a wealthy man....

Sitting on the top marveling at your choices to bring you fortune, and never contemplating the other side of that silver coin...

As the old verbage goes, throughout history, society’s/cultures have been the cause of their own demise. Why change things now?...


277 posted on 03/22/2008 5:49:12 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: 1rudeboy

Sorry, when I see the trade deficits that I see today, and yesterday, and forcasted futures, and the latest National Debt figures, I cannot grasp your defense.

I am not an educated man, but I do have some common sense, and when numbers add up to what I see, I know I would not run my business like this...


278 posted on 03/22/2008 5:52:58 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep

You cannot grasp the defense because you are being completely illogical. You see some plastic lawn furniture at Wal-Mart that is made in China, and conclude that nothing is made in the United States. Then, you start wondering about the national debt and you get even more confused. One has nothing to do with the other.


279 posted on 03/22/2008 5:57:21 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: petercooper

Ya pete, thats Great!!

Now, why don’t we show the amount of overseas parts coming in to boost these figures. Lets look at who owns these companies. Let’s have a break down on this glamorous Industrial Output and show how much of this is American versus foreign owned corporations...


280 posted on 03/22/2008 5:58:17 AM PDT by sit-rep
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